Guru Aventus rods

[mikench]

I have a few guru products mainly feeders, hooks and a landing net! They are well designed and made! Their new range of rods will probably be the same but at £375 a pop they need to be! I haven't seen one in the flesh and am unlikely to but would anyone go and buy one at this price in preference to say, a top end Browning, Daiwa or Hardy?

 

[carpinbob]

At £375 no way, I have a limit when buying a new rod £100 and I won’t go over it.

 

[steve2]

Adventus sounds to me like a cheap range of fishing tackle.
At £375, is any rod worth that amount, they must be aiming at the tackle tart market.

 

[mikench]

They seem very expensive to me particularly for a company with little or no pedigree in coarse rods or rods of any kind!

 

[tigger]

I've used Guru hooks some are good others are diabolical, but i've no idea about their rods etc, are they float rods or carp rods Mike? I would imagine carp rods since guru is another part of Korum which all seems to be carp gear.
Personally I wouldn't buy one but no doubt the guru users will be aquiring them......i'd rather have a normark!

 

[seth49]

YouTube
Short video about them here, out of my price range though.

 

[thecrow]

£375

 

[peter crabtree]

Looks like they're competing with the top range Daiwa rods.
Built in the UK too which is good.

 

[sam vimes]

The Guru rods are made by Daiwa.

since guru is another part of Korum which all seems to be carp gear

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Nope, Korum is the specialist fishing arm of Preston Innovations.

Guru is the match fishing arm of Korda.

Korda/Danny Fairbrass has long had a tie in with Daiwa. He's put his name/initials to multiple Daiwa carp rods. Any video featuring DF/Korda anglers will invariably see them using Daiwa rods and reels. They also have a similar tie in with Trakker for bivvies/bedchairs etc

On the match side, Steve Ringer is the main Daiwa sponsored angler. He also just happens to be sponsored by Guru.

The fact that Guru are producing things like rods and luggage came as a bit of a surprise to me. They are going away from the original Korda business model (which largely revolves around terminal tackle) a bit. However, the fact that the rods are Daiwa sourced is much less of a surprise.

 

[mikench]

Good to know! The range consists of float and feeder rods; no carp! I wonder which Daiwa range they emulate? They clearly cannot be superior to the Daiwa range as in the example of Red Bull and Toro Rosso, similar but not quite!

 

[sam vimes]

Good to know! The range consists of float and feeder rods; no carp!

Guru are a match brand, they are unlikely to produce a carp rod which would be the territory of their parent company, Korda.
However, All of the Guru rods so far, are aimed pretty much at the commie match scene.

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I wonder which Daiwa range they emulate? They clearly cannot be superior to the Daiwa range as in the example of Red Bull and Toro Rosso, similar but not quite!

The Guru rods are supposed to be slightly different to any of the Daiwa ranges. Whether you believe that is entirely up to you. It's entirely possible that it's a standard Daiwa blank, with different badges and cosmetics, but it isn't automatically the case. It's easy enough for them to use an existing mandrel, change the types of carbon/resin and way they are layered to produce a different blank. As it stands, many different Daiwa poles are made on the same mandrel. That doesn't mean that they end up being the same pole with different graphics. If the Guru rods are different blanks to the normal Daiwa rods, then there is a chance that they could be better rods than anything with the Daiwa name on it.

 

[flightliner]

£375

That clip is when the witless prince is asking Blackadder about his pants .
£375 ! Pay that suggests they're round his ankles and he's been shafted !

 

[mikench]

that they could be better rods than anything with the Daiwa name on it.

That i very much doubt! There would be no commercial sense in that whatsoever!Mind you how is the brilliance or otherwise of a rod demonstrated other than by opinion and use! It can hardly be subjected to the same performance tests ie protocols as say a car or an aeroplane . It's aplomb with a 19lb carp may not be so good with its more belligerent 17 lb cousin!

 

[sam vimes]

That i very much doubt! There would be no commercial sense in that whatsoever!Mind you how is the brilliance or otherwise of a rod demonstrated other than by opinion and use! It can hardly be subjected to the same performance tests ie protocols as say a car or an aeroplane . It's aplomb with a 19lb carp may not be so good with its more belligerent 17 lb cousin!

I'm not suggesting that they are better or not. Just that, if they are different, there's a chance of them being better. Personally, I couldn't care less either way, the Guru rods are feeder/commie rods. Neither are things that I have one jot of interest in. I'd sooner not bother go fishing than resort to tip rods, and I don't tend to fish commies.

 

[tigger]

The Guru rods are made by Daiwa.

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Nope, Korum is the specialist fishing arm of Preston Innovations.

Guru is the match fishing arm of Korda.

Korda/Danny Fairbrass has long had a tie in with Daiwa. He's put his name/initials to multiple Daiwa carp rods. Any video featuring DF/Korda anglers will invariably see them using Daiwa rods and reels. They also have a similar tie in with Trakker for bivvies/bedchairs etc

On the match side, Steve Ringer is the main Daiwa sponsored angler. He also just happens to be sponsored by Guru.

The fact that Guru are producing things like rods and luggage came as a bit of a surprise to me. They are going away from the original Korda business model (which largely revolves around terminal tackle) a bit. However, the fact that the rods are Daiwa sourced is much less of a surprise.

Ok, ok, I got mixed up Chris , I did put Korda down first and then ediited it to korum mg:.
I always get mixed up with korum and korda, some kind'a mental or dyslexic issue....no idea if my dyslexia has made me spell dyslexic wrong or not lol.

 

[mikench]

I have the same level of indifference particularly at the price!

 

[Philip]

The Video told me all I needed to know. A carbon blank, some rod rings, whippings, and a handle....so just like any other rod.

I am struggling to see what justifys the addiitonal £275 quid I would pay over another rod that did exactly the same thing.

...Perhaps the price tag they hang on it is solid gold ?

 

[sam vimes]

I would no more pay a lot for a feeder rod than I would go on an expensive holiday, buy a flash car, or a £20 bottle of wine. They all have little value to me. However, I'm sure they will be worthwhile for someone. I also have little doubt that they are likely to be better somehow than their budget cousins.

Philip, I'll bet that there's something that you buy and value highly that would leave me as perplexed as you are by expensive fishing rods, it's just the way of the world. The one thing that does confuse me somewhat is why you aren't using £30-50 budget carbon. If there can't be any difference between your chosen (hypothetical?) £100 rod and a £375 rod, why is there any difference between a £50 rod and a £100 one? A carbon blank, some rod rings, whippings and a handle....so just like any other rod.

 

[steve2]

If there can't be any difference between your chosen (hypothetical?) £100 rod and a £375 rod, why is there any difference between a £50 rod and a £100 one? A carbon blank, some rod rings, whippings and a handle....so just like any other rod.

Is there any real difference or is it just that it's more expensive therefore it must be better?

Just getting into the pike season where my favourite, best and most used rods will once again be my £50 a pair TFG compact carp rods.
I rate them way above my more expensive Greys and Daiwa rods.

 

[sam vimes]

Is there any real difference or is it just that it's more expensive therefore it must be better?

In this particular case, I've no idea. I have found over the years that spending more does generally buy you better gear. That's not to suggest that there aren't anomalies. There are rods that perform way above their low price point. There are also expensive rods that perform below their price point. More expensive has never automatically equated to better. I've not bought a top end Daiwa rod for decades, partly because I've not liked the feel of them, partly because I've thought cheaper rods, from other brands, were better.

However, for anyone that suggests that there can't possibly be any difference between a £100 rod and a £375 rod, why the hell are they paying £100 when there are £30 carbon rods out there? I can perfectly understand a sensibly applied budget restriction. I don't understand an illogically applied mantra of "a carbon blank, some rod rings, whippings, and a handle....so just like any rod." If that holds true between £100 and £375, it must also hold true between £30 and £100. If anyone genuinely believes it, it's totally illogical for them to buy anything but the cheapest carbon rods they can possibly find.​