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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    Something like this Derek ?
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    Sorry it's upside down- same on camara-- no idea why ???

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    That's one diseased tench!

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    The ghost carp I caught ! It looked odd at the time and still does!

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    Graham i know that not all large carp are bloated and I didn't say or imply that! Most of the carp I have caught of any size or am likely to , have been fine specimens of their type( common or mirror) and my biggest fish to date of 24lb was perfectly shaped and put up one hell of a fight! I have not seen a fish over 40 which was , shall we say , in shape! Bloated and morbidly obese are accurate descriptions of these fish and not distinguished imho!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Wintle View Post
    That's one diseased tench!
    Seen one or two like it Mark but not as bad.
    No idea what causes it???

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    I know you didn't say that I was merely pointing out that large carp don't have to be bloated.

    This was over 40lb



    As was this one




    A lot depends on the strain of carp as to whether they become bloated or not, I do not like to see those that look as if they have been inflated with a bicycle pump
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    Over about 6 decades of fishing I have caught some odd looking fish:

    Several roach with golden patches.
    A 30 lb 10oz mirror carp the same shape as a barbel.
    Two tone carp and bream - some think that this is due to stress?
    A barbel from the Lea which had an extra barbule.
    Snub nosed pike.

    My wife once caught a weird carp which was lime green and its fins were huge like sails!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flightliner View Post
    Seen one or two like it Mark but not as bad.
    No idea what causes it???
    Could be from the exertions during spawning?
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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    When it comes to large carp appearing bloated, it's often a question of genetics rather than being overfed and obese. In the never ending drive to achieve greater weights, fish breeders often chase "ideals" that don't necessarily coincide wth those of a fair number of anglers. If carp sizes (and body shapes) had been left entirely to nature, I suspect that carp would rarely exceed 40lb in the UK. It's possible that the figure might be much less.

    I suspect that an awful lot of the more outlandishly shaped carp are nothing more that genetic deformities. Snub noses, weird shaped heads, oddly positioned and sized mouths are all fairly commonly seen, especially in commercial venues.

    When it comes to colouration of fish, genetics also play a part, but the most significant factors seem to be water quality, water clarity and diet. The most beautifully coloured fish I've ever encountered have invariably come from clear water venues.

    The strangest variations in fish colouration I've seen are on waters that vary in clarity. The Dales rivers can run like tap water at times, but they often run the colour of stewed tea for long periods. The fish often seem to vary in how vivid they are depending on the water colour.

    The most obvious genetic variations I've encountered have been in barbel. In some of the rivers I frequent, the are long, lean, and quite pale barbel alongside shorter, stockier, and more golden/brassy fish. The speculation on this is that the long, lean, fish might be a native strain and the shorter, stockier, fish be those that have origins in the EA stock fish which would have links to Trent fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flightliner View Post
    Seen one or two like it Mark but not as bad.
    No idea what causes it???
    I think it's a bacterial infection; seen a few like it over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john step View Post
    I once caught a pike on the Ancholme that had a distinctly yellow hue to it.

    Keith, I wonder if your carp had a bit of fantail goldfish in its ancestry?
    John , there are pike in a water in Lymm that are yellow, this is I presume that the water has a sandstone bottom and sandstone sides, The yellow colouration does not seem to affect any other fish in there, The water in question has a flow coming into it, then a decent slow glide and part still ( this is where the pike reside) before going over a small outcrop into a stream, The water source starts at Lymm Dam which has a lot of sandstone around it, then into a stream to the lower dam in the village then into a stream to the pool where the pike are.

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