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    Default Those distinguished fish.

    They can be of any species, and are often very ''attractive'', novel if you will. I have slides and photo's of some very odd colourations and markings. Pike with burnished gold gill plates etc. This is distinct from birth defects such as the rare ''pug nosed'' varieties. And often these fish are evidently prospering, and a good majority attaining good sizes.

    I am well aware that water clarity can play a role in this in some cases.

    Have you encountered such examples?

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    I haven't Derek save for an oddly coloured carp which I was told was a ghost carp! Clearly large carp are regarded as distinguished by some and are even given names. The cover of this week's AT features a common carp of 65lb 2oz! To some distinguished , to me bloated, ugly and but for a life of relative weightlessness in water, morbidly obese!

    I caught my first gudgeon last year and was enchanted by their brilliant coloration and tenacity! Very distinguished indeed!

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    I had a Barbel on the river Lea once that had 3 barbules, and I caught a Bream once that had its rear half a completely different shade of brown to its front half.

    I’ve also seen pictures of a Golden barbel that someone had caught from the river Dane once.

    Ive noticed that some of the old wizened Carp and Tench in our lakes and rivers tend to have a much richer and darker colouring than the newer and faster growing strains which often tend to be a much lighter colouring.

    One of the most distinctive and ugliest Carp that I’ve caught however was the one pictured below, which looked like it was trying to impersonate a Barbel on my local Barbel stream, with its underslung mouth and it’s strange looking dorsal fin.



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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    Not all large carp are bloated, I recall a fish caught by my son that was iirc around 30lbs, it was in perfect condition not bloated was a mahogany colour fought like a demon, it was the best looking mirror I have ever seen. This is the fish



    I also remember when I finished fishing the Trent and started fishing a much smaller river, the Barbel were to my mind better looking being sleek and streamlined with their weight carried in their breadth not their belly.
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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Derek Gibson View Post

    I am well aware that water clarity can play a role in this in some cases.
    You can't beat a bit of clear water for the most vivid of colours. Although two waters within a stones throw, even the same catchment can have washed out looking colours in one to the most wonderful hues in the other. Then you get the odd fish in a shoal that's either the 'dark one' or the 'light coloured one', compared to the rest, barbel and chub seem to have this distinctive fish quite often within their shoals. I personally love the big roach that have that bright orange chin spot

    The colours can also change withing the same water with a period of clear or coloured water - I've heard that a goldfish kept in the dark will turn white within two weeks, not sure if that's true but it would make sense

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    This is one of those roach, the orange spot on this one actually extended to the top lip too and was so vivid, photo doesn't do it justice as it was a dull day

    Those distinguished fish.-orange-roach.jpg

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    This is not new, older members will no doubt recall the debates that persisted over several seasons regarding the ''two tone'' Bream saga.
    Many theories were put forward to account for this phenomenon. But since it occurred on a variety of waters I don't recall the curiosity being resolved.
    Unless you know different?

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    Isn't there two tone colourations in most animal species including humans? Pigments devoloping differently on the skin or hair in different areas, surely science has found the answer?

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    I once caught a pike on the Ancholme that had a distinctly yellow hue to it.

    Keith, I wonder if your carp had a bit of fantail goldfish in its ancestry?

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    Default Re: Those distinguished fish.

    I used to fish a Barnet AC water next to Potters Bar called Shepherds Way where the Perch hardly had any colour or stripes at all they were so pale, but the water didn’t look any different in colour to other lakes and ponds in the area which were all quite muddy looking.

    I kept a goldfish in a large water butt once, the water was thick with green algae and the goldfish turned a very vivid orange and remained very lively and healthy, it was a lot more vivid orange than it was when it was kept it in a clear pond in my garden previously.

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