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    What, if anything, is inherently wrong with using such a rod on a Stillwater? Apart from a current( I avoided the word flow as many stillwaters do have a pronounced flow) what is the difference in rivers and lakes that determine which rods are suitable and which are not?

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    Spliced tip rods came about because in the early days of carbon rods they could not manufacture hollow tips fine enough to give the correct action that people wanted. The most popular and best of these rods at the time was the Shakespeare President,they were used for all forms of fishing in lakes and rivers but then as carbon technology developed hollow tipped rods could be made fine enough and the spliced tips lost favour.
    The only drawback with a properly built spliced tip rod is line wrap caused by tip wobble due to the tip being so fine it tends to bounce a bit when you hold the rod and unhook fish or bait up,you reduce this by keeping some tension on the line at all times which is good practice anyway.
    I still use a spliced tip Shakespeare Boron from time to time which is a superb rod nearly 40 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikench View Post
    What, if anything, is inherently wrong with using such a rod on a Stillwater? Apart from a current( I avoided the word flow as many stillwaters do have a pronounced flow) what is the difference in rivers and lakes that determine which rods are suitable and which are not?
    Nothing Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikench View Post
    What, if anything, is inherently wrong with using such a rod on a Stillwater? Apart from a current( I avoided the word flow as many stillwaters do have a pronounced flow) what is the difference in rivers and lakes that determine which rods are suitable and which are not?
    It depends entirely on the spliced tip rod in question. Just because a rod has a spliced tip does not mean that they all share the same kind of action. There are spliced tip rods out there that are intended for (light) waggler work on still and very gently flowing waters (Browning Sphere Hotrods, various Tricast canal rods, old Daiwa 12' canal rods etc). However, the bulk of spliced tip rods have much faster actions and are/were intended for trotting on proper flowing water. The differences between the two types should come down to the speed of the action and can sometimes be hinted at in the length of the splice. The light waggler/canal types I've seen generally have a proportionally longer spliced section which gives a more through action than a typical spliced tip trotting rod.

    There's nothing stopping anyone using a spliced tip trotting rod for stillwater waggler fishing. However, it probably won't cast a decent sized waggler anywhere near as well as a more through actioned waggler rod. Trying to launch a reasonably big waggler any distance may even put the delicate splice in peril of breakage. They definitely aren't intended for big overhead chucks with heavier floats.

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    Cheers chaps! The only spliced tip rod I have , to my knowledge, is my tricast John Allerton which apart from a brief foray on a river has only ever seen a Stillwater ! It has handled carp,tench, roach and bream without any difficulty and cast a light waggler as far as I wanted to cast it!

    Is the acolyte plus a spliced tip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikench View Post
    Is the acolyte plus a spliced tip?
    No, just a bit faster actioned than a typical waggler rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikench View Post
    Cheers chaps! The only spliced tip rod I have , to my knowledge, is my tricast John Allerton which apart from a brief foray on a river has only ever seen a Stillwater ! It has handled carp,tench, roach and bream without any difficulty and cast a light waggler as far as I wanted to cast it!

    Is the acolyte plus a spliced tip?
    The acolyte isn't spliced Mike, although it does have a nice fast action (it feels fast to me)for striking and mending line etc when using it on the river.
    What's in the pipeline to bring this line of conversation up .

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    All will be revealed , eventually! I am doing a Dr Who!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikench View Post
    All will be revealed , eventually! I am doing a Dr Who!!!!!
    So that would be a transgender angler thread then.

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    I might wish to identify as Dorothy today!!!! The world is crackers!!! Back on post I meant a rod from yesteryear!

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