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    Default Carp Pollution

    This is not an attack on carp or carp angler just the way fishing is now going.

    I have just received newsletters from both of my clubs and they are carrying what I call I not being a carp lover will call Carp Pollution.
    In one case they are stocking what is a good mixed fishery, Tench to 7lbs, Bream 8lbs, carp to 30lbs with a good mix of other silver fish with 500 more carp. The reason they say is that the carp are rarely caught this will make the carp fishing easier and possibly attract more members.
    What this will do to the other fishing and fish on this small lake I know from past experience other fishing will go down hill. They also intend to stock more carp into other waters this year.
    The other club are about to remove all the smaller carp and replace them with a number of bigger carp. All the smaller carp will dumped into one of the other lakes this lake as Tench to over 10lbs plus already a health stock of large carp.
    Another club I was a member of removed large numbers of bream because the carp anglers complained about them having the cheek to take their baits.
    It seems that in all these cases the God Carp now overrules all other thinking.
    Does or as your clubs carried out similar schemes?

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    Default Re: Carp Pollution

    Yes but last year they put in 1000lb of bream between 3-4lb .
    That club is more match oriented than carp, they do have a few carp in there upto 20lbs
    Personally I think it killed the pleasure fishing, everyone catches 3 or 4 bream then nothing.
    Average match weight is 15lb Carp Pollution not much gain on the year before.
    Overstocking with any one species is bound to have a detrimental impact on all the others
    I’m not renewing my ticket this year.

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    No,my local club restock carp every two years,numbers depend on carp deaths during that time,what annoys me is they don't restock tench on the same reasoning,two tench have been found dead in the margins in the last few weeks,both around 5 or 6lbs,the only thing I can say is the lake in question has a fantastic stock with carp to around 30,cats up to around 70,bream around 9/10,tench 8,roach 2.8,perch well over 3 andpike to upper twenties,all species are in good numbers,it's been this way for around twenty years of more,a testament to the club,who own it and spend money maintaining it,had two blokes from rat control yesterday,they've had contractors tarmacing the entrance(with kerbs) and drains and recently had swims professionally rebuilt,not particularly to my liking but solid flat and will probably last over twenty years.

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    This approach is not followed to my knowledge in my clubs! Indeed on one water, a day ticket water, the owner periodically nets the lakes and swaps the larger carp for smaller ones ie a 20lber for 10 3lbers . Clearly he has to keep within safe and sensible stocking levels but does it to keep the carpers away. Fishing is dawn to dusk only and there is a maximum of 2 rods!

    He has told me that when asked by blokes he doesn't like the look of if there are any big carp stocked, he says no and that they are all in single figures. He would rather his regulars catch and care for the larger carp of which there are many.

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    Many clubs are in the difficult position of declining incomes and increasing costs. They have to do what they think is in the best interests of the majority of members with one eye on increasing membership. The harsh reality is that waters without carp don't attract as much interest. Many good waters lacking carp exist, and are like Mecca to a small number of people. However, those small numbers probably wouldn't even cover the rent. They are effectively having their Mecca subsidised by others. I have every sympathy with these anglers, I count myself as one. However, I've seen it from the other side. Sadly, carers seem prepared to pay (especially the persuers of big carp) in a way that many of those chasing tench, bream and crucians etc simply aren't. Belonging to a mixed fishery syndicate, the number of all round anglers, or those uninterested in carp, and are prepared to pay, is rather small. We have a devil of a job keeping the carers happy when spending "their" money on tench, bream, roach etc. I'd love it if the place was full of allrounders and specialists other than carers, but that won't happen any time soon.

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    On my favourite water a new lake has been stocked with a variety of fish but only crucian carp and no bream! I hope it stays that way.

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    Nah stuff it full of bream too,if the crucians don't have loads of carp to compete with and no major predators it will be just fine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam vimes View Post
    Many clubs are in the difficult position of declining incomes and increasing costs. They have to do what they think is in the best interests of the majority of members with one eye on increasing membership. The harsh reality is that waters without carp don't attract as much interest. Many good waters lacking carp exist, and are like Mecca to a small number of people. However, those small numbers probably wouldn't even cover the rent. They are effectively having their Mecca subsidised by others. I have every sympathy with these anglers, I count myself as one. However, I've seen it from the other side. Sadly, carers seem prepared to pay (especially the persuers of big carp) in a way that many of those chasing tench, bream and crucians etc simply aren't. Belonging to a mixed fishery syndicate, the number of all round anglers, or those uninterested in carp, and are prepared to pay, is rather small. We have a devil of a job keeping the carers happy when spending "their" money on tench, bream, roach etc. I'd love it if the place was full of allrounders and specialists other than carers, but that won't happen any time soon.
    This is reality ^^.

    We all have different tastes, but ultimately the rents have to be paid.

    One solution may be to get yourself on the committee of the club and influence the policy rom within. Ultimately if the clubs policy is the polar opposite to your likes or preferences, then check out other clubs or syndicates in the vicinity that are more aligned to your way of thinking.

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    Lol,the reality is if you had a quality tench lake around here you would sell rakes of tickets,it's just become accepted people want loads of carp,carp are fine,but not in massive numbers,it's great really,but there is talk of invasive species,but we actually stack them in to the detriment of our indigenous species,I suppose that's ok though....
    Last edited by whitty; 01-05-2019 at 18:01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitty View Post
    Lol,the reality is it you had a quality tench lake around here you would sell loads of tickets.
    People say that, but the reality is usually somewhat different. I know commies that have done away with "silver" only ponds due to lack of use. My own syndicate lake has some of the biggest bream and tench for miles around. The number of non-carpers showing any interest is limited. I know of one of the best tench waters north of the Humber that was returned to fishing access by a fella I'm acquainted with. He tried to leave it alone and run it as a day ticket venue. He had nowt but bother and still couldn't make it pay. People talk a good fight, but they don't pay as well as they talk.

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