Weirdoh there has to be censorship of sorts,there also has to be rules and as you personally took it upon yourself to start a crusade against the basic laws/rules within fishing and this forum from your very first post,causing upset,not debating sensibly,then your status as a probable troll is now written in stone,I for one hope you prove people wrong and become a useful member of this forum,as you seem to have decent knowledge of our sport...
I think maybe it is I put a post up this morning saying I wanted to take some disabled people on a boat holiday to Norway fishing and mostly to my expense and the post was taken down within a hour I don't think that was very nice to someone who was trying to do some good instead of bad.
You do have free speech and are free to post on this forum but ....
I think maybe it is I put a post up this morning saying I wanted to take some disabled people on a boat holiday to Norway fishing and mostly to my expense and the post was taken down within a hour I don't think that was very nice to someone who was trying to do some good instead of bad.
Boatfisher, I'm not sure what happened with this post as I can't see a post having been deleted, and I certainly didn't delete it. I've messaged you asking for more information but you haven't responded.
Are you sure it posted when you submitted it - did you see it go live and then get deleted?
which is not really appropriate for a forum such as this and which could not be advocated or supported in the interests of health and safety.
All I did was state I did not need a license to fish where I do have permission and remain LAWFUL
I agree we all need to help eachother but I am only stating a fact here, someone can be seen as a troll purely for defending a viewpoint against multiple people who are simply not used to it as the forum enjoys popularity of opinion. I been respectful AND within the forums own specified rules all the time (I give as good as I get) but my ability to defend myself and my opinions were curtailed swiftly by censorship only.
Calling someone a troll just because you do not like them is not going to show any depth to your understanding of that person....it is basically at best childish name calling at worst... a blanket word like racist or sexist, all terms like this are simply used to stiffle debates where the truth is seemed to be strong on the opposing viewpoint. All I did was state I did not need a license to fish where I do have permission and remain LAWFUL and the second thing was stating what part of society I deem the biggest threat to young children in the UK (which I was showing was shared by our Muslim population here and was already available to read in a widely distributed and nationally accepted form of media prior to my opinion being expressed).
Popularity must be the second casualty after the truth when it comes to censorship, that was all I was really saying. But I agree with you on the greater scheme of things.
Weirdoh, I believe that unless you are fishing in somewhere outside of England or are sea fishing or for some strange reason have a ‘special’ dispensation it is still illegal to fish using a rod and line in any private or public water and it doesn’t matter whether you have permission or not to fish a water using a rod & Line. if you do not have a Rod Licence and you are using a rod & line then you are not fishing lawfully and can be taken to a court and be fined; even if it’s in someone’s garden pond it doesn’t really matter.
It’s a ‘rod’ licence not a fishing licence (similar to a Gun licence) although you are still allowed to own a rod without having a rod licence as long as you do not use it (or even carry it made up anywhere near a water).
So if this is correct surely you can see why people object to you blatantly spurting on about how you don’t need a licence to fish somewhere because you have the fishery owners permission, and inferring that you must be a fool to buy one.
Poaching on a water where fishing rights have been sold or given to a club (or another controlling body) is classed by the law as the stealing of fishing rights and can also get you in trouble with the law even if you are not found fishing red handed.
Of course the owner could have come to an agreement with the club to allow the owners guests to fish occasionally and that would be a different matter of course.
Keith
If you haven’t already, read this “Richards” post in the plonker thread, most probably pure fantasy but if it isn’t, it goes some way to condemning him as an illegal angler and/or poacher.
Weirdoh, I believe that unless you are fishing in somewhere outside of England or are sea fishing or for some strange reason have a ‘special’ dispensation it is still illegal to fish using a rod and line in any private or public water unless you have a ‘rod licence’ and it doesn’t matter whether you have permission or not to fish a water using a rod & Line. if you do not have a Rod Licence and you are using a rod & line then you are not fishing lawfully and can be taken to a court and be fined; even if it’s in someone’s garden pond it doesn’t really matter.
It’s a ‘rod’ licence not a fishing licence (similar to a Gun licence) although you are still allowed to own a rod without having a rod licence as long as you do not use it (or even carry it made up anywhere near a water).
So if this is correct surely you can see why people object to you blatantly spurting on about how you don’t need a licence to fish somewhere because you have the fishery owners permission, and inferring that you must be a fool to buy one.
Private and club owned fishing rights:
My understanding is that Poaching on a private water including a water where fishing rights have been sold or given to a club (or another controlling body) is classed by the law as ‘the stealing of fishing rights’ and can also get you in trouble with the law even if you are not found fishing red handed, even if the poacher does have a valid ‘Rod Licence’.
Of course the owner could have come to an agreement with the club to allow guests of the owner to fish occasionally and that would be a different matter of course.
However the fishery owner and his guests plus everyone else would still need to have a ‘Rod Licence’ as well.
Keith
If you haven’t already, read this “Richards” post in the plonker thread, most probably pure fantasy but if it isn’t, it goes some way to condemning him as an illegal angler and/or poacher.