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    Quote Originally Posted by markg View Post
    But at least you still caught the fish with those methods, "who" caught the fish when a bloke in a boat put the bait in the desired spot for you. I would say he did, he did most of the hard work. Either way, I could never in my heart feel I totally caught the fish and wouldn't claim to have done so, a joint effort with credit going to the boatman at least.
    And what about netting rights, I net my own fish; a crucial part of the skill in angling.
    If someone put the bait in for you and someone netted the fish for you-you virtually done f-all and have no right to claim you and no one else caught that fish !! Thats the "cheat" the deception you caught the fish, all on your own, all your own skill.
    And where do record claims come into this? Hillary always acknowledges his Sherpa when claiming his record on Everest!
    Now you put it like that, I'm kind of coming to your way of thinking. Well put good post
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    I actually thought that it was a decent watch. Recognised the area from when I fished the Ebro a few years back.

    I will remain open minded. Dean Maycey may have limitations, but the fact that he i# not Keith Arthur means I am happy.

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    [QUOTE=daniel121;1499508]Now you put it like that, I'm kind of coming to your way of thinking. Well put good post.

    No one has ever said that to me on here and probably never will again, I feel overwhelmed by it all, must go and have a lay down for a minute.

    Last edited by markg; 12-08-2019 at 07:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markg View Post
    But at least you still caught the fish with those methods, "who" caught the fish when a bloke in a boat put the bait in the desired spot for you. I would say he did, he did most of the hard work. Either way, I could never in my heart feel I totally caught the fish and wouldn't claim to have done so, a joint effort with credit going to the boatman at least.
    And what about netting rights, I net my own fish; a crucial part of the skill in angling.
    If someone put the bait in for you and someone netted the fish for you-you virtually done f-all and have no right to claim you and no one else caught that fish !! Thats the "cheat" the deception you caught the fish, all on your own, all your own skill.
    And where do record claims come into this? Hillary always acknowledges his Sherpa when claiming his record on Everest!
    Are you saying therefore that any fish record, PB or otherwise that you have not netted yourself doesn’t count as your fish. That would rule out a lot of the existing PB's and fish records. Not that fish records matter anyway.
    Have you ever tried getting 100lb plus of catfish in on your own I haven’t and I would fancy trying.
    When I go wreck fishing and the boatman put me over a wreck 25 miles off shore does that mean the fish I have caught don’t count because I can’t cast 25miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve2 View Post
    Are you saying therefore that any fish record, PB or otherwise that you have not netted yourself doesn’t count as your fish. That would rule out a lot of the existing PB's and fish records. Not that fish records matter anyway.
    Have you ever tried getting 100lb plus of catfish in on your own I haven’t and I would fancy trying.
    When I go wreck fishing and the boatman put me over a wreck 25 miles off shore does that mean the fish I have caught don’t count because I can’t cast 25miles.
    I am saying if someone put the bait and hook in for you and/or someone netted the fish for you then you are not the sole credited captor of that fish irrespective of where size etc.
    And if you like, a skilled boatman put you on a good mark at sea, then he helped you with his skill, not yours and is credit worthy and so is a ghillie maybe. Would they have rights and claims in a court of law.?
    If I have found a fish, used all my own skill and judgement in catching it and landing it, then and only then is it truely my fish.
    Or is it not?
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    [QUOTE=markg;1499529] If I have found a fish, used all my own skill and judgement in catching it and landing it, then and only then is it truely my fish.
    Or is it not?

    Using that criteria I have just rule out PB’s for Carp, Pike and Barbel a friend helped me land them so I can now start again.
    Thank you it will give me reason to go fishing again.

    Anybody still watching this programme watched it last night. Finding it boring it as just turned into another programme with two blokes chasing around catching big carp.

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    This programme was just like monster carp with different faces...with a manic man on laughing gas heading it...
    Last edited by whitty; 30-08-2019 at 14:22.

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    Using the same criteria then Dick Walker's record Carp, Raviolli, shouldn't count either as it was not netted by Walker but by Pete Thomas?

    Not forgetting either that Thomas also had to assist when the Carp tried to wrap the line around the stumps . . . . .

    I somehow cannot see Walker jumping around like a loon yelling and high-fiving Pete Thomas, but then he wasn't on the TV back then I suppose.

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    When I fshed Redmire I made a point of being awake at 4:45 for two mornings and just sat there, quietly, imagining the 10 minutes battle on Walker's 12lbs plaited line with a size 2's model perfect hook attached to what became the most famous fish in angling history . . . . . no hooping and hollering or jumping in the margin acting like a fool . . .

    Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers.

    Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary. ~

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    I must have something wrong with me,because when I catch a good fish I sit down with the fish resting in the net and quietly have thoughts of the moment,then get on with the business of weighing,photographing and returning the fish safely as quick as possible,then have another moment shaking my head on what an amazing thing just happened....

    Just to add that I'm not the quietest of fellas,being half deaf,but the above still applies...
    Last edited by whitty; 30-08-2019 at 16:21.

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