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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip View Post
    Not sure I follow..are you saying its 3D printed in cork ?

    ....I ask as I thought they 3D printed in resin.
    Sorry, I didn’t word that well. Cork strips were the popular method for packing out an arbour but some clever bod designed an arbour using CAD and 3D technology,you can have them made from a variety of materials and colours, mine being made from Polylatic Acid (PLA), that’s plastic to me!

    If anyone has a Speedia reel and would like one of these arbours the designer has given his pattern to the web for public use, I can give a link to the site.
    Last edited by s63; 02-11-2019 at 14:35.

  2. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam vimes View Post
    You have noticed that S63 has fitted an arbour reducer to his Speedia?
    Right got yer,ditch the arbour reducer then. You are solving one problem and creating another .

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by trotter2 View Post
    Right got yer,ditch the arbour reducer then. You are solving one problem and creating another .
    Lol, that’s it in a nutshell! Hopefully both resolved now.

  4. #54

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    I first seen those arbour reducers a few years back on another forum.
    The deep arbour on a speedia is one of the main reasons why I love them.
    They are a tangle proof design I would imagine it's one of the reason other anglers get on so well with them also. Yes it's a slower retrieve but so what is the hurry when pleasure fishing anyways. I would much rather have a reel that is great to use,lightweight, tangle proof and affordable and needs no line guard Sam.

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    I prefer the " use a sensible reel " option...😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by trotter2 View Post
    Right got yer,ditch the arbour reducer then. You are solving one problem and creating another .
    Often the way with centrepins. A fine excuse to have as many different designs as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by trotter2 View Post
    it's a slower retrieve but so what is the hurry when pleasure fishing anyways.
    Because I find retrieving really slowly from a long trot is a painful experience. It's no fun when you spend more time retrieving than you do actually fishing.

    Quote Originally Posted by trotter2 View Post
    I would much rather have a reel that is great to use,lightweight, tangle proof and affordable and needs no line guard Sam.
    I don't particularly care which reel I use on the day, line guard or not. I just pick the best for the conditions and the rod I intend to use. However, one of my fundamental requirements of being able to retrieve "finger through" rules the likes of a Speedia out for me.

    Ultimately, I hate seeing people say you shouldn't use a line guard. They can be an absolute boon to a beginner or anyone that uses a pin in less than perfect conditions. Usually, those slating line guards are experienced users of pins that have totally forgotten how tortuous learning to use them was.

    The "you can't Wallis cast with a line guard" thing is similar. Many people just take it as read. They don't actually give it a go. Very few people question it. Perhaps I'm not Wallis casting properly, but I'm doing something akin to Wallis casting, and I'm still getting the distance. That'll do nicely for me.
    Last edited by sam vimes; 02-11-2019 at 15:27.

  7. #57

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    You can still Wallis cast with a line guard I used to do it. Only down side is if you do overrun and get a tangle. A line guard with almost certainty require a pair of scissors to sort out.
    Probably enough from me on centrepins I can feel it getting heated

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    Why does it need to get heated? You have your opinion, mine and others may differ, this thread has gone way off topic but it’s me that started it and I’ve found ALL contributions interesting and useful and happy to discuss all aspects of using a pin.

    It’s worth remembering that different people have different levels of skill, mine being complete novice, it’s also worth mentioning that we fish different types of waters, I fish the local Kentish Stour that is no more than a stream in places, I’ll have no need to learn the Wallis cast, my loop flick will suffice. The very fact that some experienced anglers prefer to use an increased diameter of arbour and also a lineguard says to me that it’s something worth considering and a bit of experimentation is in order.

    Finally, I would also add that I try and tailor my fishing styles and equipment I use to fit in with my capabilities, e.g. I have the onset of arthritis in my fingers, a real p in the a of a handicap for many aspects of fishing, I find batting a reel much easier than using handles or poking a digit in one of the holes, it’s fun and satisfying to adapt/modify kit to suit my needs.
    Last edited by s63; 02-11-2019 at 16:23.

  9. #59

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    Whatever the pros and cons, I reckon they're a joy to use for trotting, there's an inherently pleasurable feel about them that I don't get from using a fixed spool or closed face.

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    Okuma Sheffield on eBay with 8 hrs to go and a (so far) reasonable price.

    Okuma Sheffield S1002 Centrepin Trotting Reel. RRP PS170 | eBay

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