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    True Alan.

    The Great Ouse is a small river really, in the stretches that we both know well.
    The Ivel in comparison is a brook.
    I have to say I'm still amazed with the size that some of the Ouse fish reached - given the size of that river. Just look at the Martin Bowler video (was it catching the Impossible?) - it's hardly moving and yet still a tiny river.
    I remember old Dick Morris catching a 13 pounder on the Ash tree peg back in the day on breadflake ... in the days when the record was about 15 pounds iirc.

    I also couldn't blame anyone for not disclosing fish, or venues - given the number of people who seem happy to not bother doing their homework and the effects they can have.
    My local stretch of the Warks Avon has been pretty popular for a decade - plenty of big singles and low doubles to be caught. It's a limited membership club - but some of the pegs still get fished pretty much every day and evening though the summer and autumn.

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    Alex,when i started fishing for barbel on the Ivel it took me a season to do my 'apprenticeship',sussing the viable pegs and the baits and the best time of year to fish it,winter basically,to have people wombling along taking advantage of your efforts,which though not difficult,still had to be done,i had the same on the Hants Avon at Ellingham on the Somerley estate,because i was catching barbel regularly on a river fishing hard,had guys waiting for me in the tackle shop in Ringwood and then tail me along the river sussing pegs that i fished,unfortunate for them i realised what was going on and took them to a peg i'd pre-baited the day before,not one of my favored spots(of which there were several)so they were none the wiser...
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitty View Post
    Alex,when i started fishing for barbel on the Ivel it took me a season to do my 'apprenticeship',sussing the viable pegs and the baits and the best time of year to fish it,winter basically,to have people wombling along taking advantage of your efforts,which though not difficult,still had to be done,i had the same on the Hants Avon at Ellingham on the Somerley estate,because i was catching barbel regularly on a river fishing hard,had guys waiting for me in the tackle shop in Ringwood and then tail me along the river sussing pegs that i fished,unfortunate for them i realised what was going on and took them to a peg i'd pre-baited the day before,not one of my favored spots(of which there were several)so they were none the wiser...
    I've never understood why some people do that? A large part of the satisfaction is that you have done your homework. Knowing that you have piggy backed on someone else's effort has to detract from your captures? Surely?

  4. #44

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    Ive always lamented the fact that around here there aren't any Barbel to speak of....reading of the shenanigans some of you guys have experienced, I'm now feeling relieved.

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    You would'nt believe it mate,its even worse now because there are less barbel about,for whatever reasons,it has become like carping in the bad old days...

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    I think Dick Walker had the right idea when he caught his record he moved to an aquarium.

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    Yep i went to see clarissa countless times,amazing creature...

  8. #48

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    I think if it’s a record fish then I can’t see the problem with the publicity. It’s a special fish and a special achievement, not without luck but still noteworthy.

    I can understand if you’re fishing a stretch that contains a record fish you’d be ****** off but unfortunately that’s the game. No matter how many hours you put in it’s not your river or your fish. A bit miserable not to want to share it with other anglers but that’s just my opinion

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    It’s also a yardstick that we all measure by. And we also seem to value fish that are about half the record weights, 2lb roach, 10lb bream, 10lb barble, , 20lb carp (before the record got a bit irrelevant), 20lb Pike. Anything plus these weights are recognised as a special fish and an achievement of some sort; how would we do that without a record list? We would not have much of an understanding of a good fish if we had no knowledge of what a fish could achieve weight wise. Our hobby would be a lot poorer or less interesting at least without one.
    I wouldn't like the publicity or the circus but it all dies down so something to put up with for a while but maintaining a relevant record list is more important I think. So, I agree with Daveboy;. it's not the end of the world and sharing and delighting in the fish with others that share your hobby and maintaining a relevant record list and adding to the biological/scientific knowlede of the country outweigh the bad side of it. However, I understand why not everyone would agree with that and everyone has a free hand in what they decide, that's fair.
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    I'm going to look like a party-pooper here, but even though I'm as keen on my fishing as the next angler, I rarely think about record fish sizes, in fact I'm not really bothered, and I'd score precious few in a Mastermind round on the subject.

    I take nothing away from the exploits of those dedicated to catching the biggest fish, but I have only a mild curiosity about it. I like to fish for a bag of fish rather than a big specimen, and where/how I fish a 1lb roach, a 6lb bream or a 4lb tench are lovely fish regardless of their relation in size to one that has grown freakishly large in some part of the country that provides special conditions, often only for a short period. My honest reaction to someone who tells me a 6lb chub came out of here or there is, can you tell me where I can catch 3 2lb'ers, as that's more fun and implies a healthier river, as I know a couple with some scarce, big old chub and none coming through behind them, the Derwent for instance.

    I only bought a first set of scales this year, after a lifetime of fishing, as I was curious about some of the barbel I caught this summer. Before that - and I've still hardly used them - I had enough of a yardstick from seeing other people weigh the odd fish, having the odd fish weighed for me by someone else or having match catches weighed.

    I share information about water and swims with friends, but I'd dismayed if the captor of the kind of fish likely to spark a goldrush drew the crowds to a water I fished, especially if it were a relatively small and quiet one. Even on my local river - a giant Motorway compared to one of the small southern A or B roads - you can see the effects of less scrupulous anglers aggressively stalking successful ones and chasing up media reports.

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