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  1. #81
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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    When it comes to making rules in times such as these it is worth remembering that there will always be those who think that they can find some "wiggle room" to support their chosen view . . . like;

    "I can sit on my own and fish and never come into contact with anyone else"

    A new rule or regulation has to be all encompassing, otherwise it will never be followed (and thereby be self defeating). . . is that such difficult concept to accept?

    I saw this elsewhere and thought it sums up the position so very well . . . .

    The effectiveness of lockdown depends on two main principles:

    1. How dense the population is, and

    2, How dense the population is . . . . .

    Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers.

    Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary. ~

    Patrick F. McManus






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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    People should also follow the guidelines on keeping themselves physically and mentally healthy though.

    Here they are:

    Guidance for the public on the mental health and wellbeing aspects of coronavirus (COVID-19) - GOV.UK

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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by whitty View Post
    I have got to renew a club membership shortly(days)at the cost of £60(i dont qualify for an oap ticket as you have to be a member for five years),im not sure with the virus problems at present if I want to pay that for what may end up being six months or less fishing,if I survive,better to pay the membership that starts from June the 16th for my other club,im too practical for my own good...
    My clubs have suspended all memberships for the time being and the season will start when we are told it's once again OK. They have already decided that next years 2021 close season on club lakes will be cancelled if the ban isn't lifted before June.
    Last edited by steve2; 08-04-2020 at 14:18.

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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    Gov advice (order) Stay at home, essential travel only!
    Why not make some freezer baits for when we all get out to play again? You know like we used to do before commercial baits became the lazy option for the lazy man's sport... just an idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by john step View Post
    That is a very interesting point. I have never heard this mentioned before by all those giving advice on the box. I wonder if this is the reason for the amazingly speedy spread of it across continents.
    On the face of it this would seem more to the point than the 6 feet rule.

    Anyone know for sure from scientific studies if it can spread like that on the wind?
    Yes John, the virus like all viruses can carry in the wind and has the potential to infect anyone downwind from you - for however many miles it can travel before it dies*.
    4 hours at 12 miles per hour for example = distance of 48 miles.

    Not that it's actually alive. It is neither alive nor dead - viruses exist in the form of independent particles, or virions. They are alternative life forms for all intents and purposes. They are replicators, parasites.

    How big is this covid-19 virus?
    About one hundred nanometres across... that's one ten thousandth of a millimetre... or put another way - a pin head of 2mm across can fit 20,000 viruses all lined up side by side with room to spare!

    Will wearing a mask stop the virus particles getting through?
    Only the more specialised fitted masks are effective. If you were to hold up a cheap paper mask to the light you would be able to see right through it. The gaps between the fibres on such a scale are huge in comparison - allowing thousands of particles through at a time.

    The infectious dose is thought to be just 20 particles!

    Stay indoors.

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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by laguna View Post
    Will wearing a mask stop the virus particles getting through?
    Only the more specialised fitted masks are effective. If you were to hold up a cheap paper mask to the light you would be able to see right through it. The gaps between the fibres on such a scale are huge in comparison - allowing thousands of particles through at a time.

    The infectious dose is thought to be just 20 particles!

    Stay indoors.
    My home made mask is a tea towel with a piece of polythene taped in side it. Fold over and tie round the mouth and nose. I change it every couple of days and disinfect the old one in a bucket of bleach and tape a fresh bit of polythene in the new one, throwing the old bit away.

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    I posted links to lab tests which concluded that even home-made masks provide a worthwhile degree of protection. Those who have talked down their usefulness for virus-free people nonetheless state they are effective in preventing spread by infected people. Since reducing both catching and spread are two sides of the same coin, I don't see what the case against masks is, particularly since, if generally worn, they might prevent people who don't know they're carrying from spreading.

    There are arguments that mask-wearing might breed a false sense of security, and mask wearing prompts some to keep putting hands to faces to re-position etc. Well, people - you'd hope - can learn, and maybe seat belts and crash helmets promote faster, riskier driving and riding in some; the benefits are still considered to outweigh the risks.

    I'd add that wearing masks is a visual signal that reminds people that things aren't normal and helps maintain the understanding that caution and keeping distance are required.

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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by nottskev View Post
    I posted links to lab tests which concluded that even home-made masks provide a worthwhile degree of protection. Those who have talked down their usefulness for virus-free people nonetheless state they are effective in preventing spread by infected people. Since reducing both catching and spread are two sides of the same coin, I don't see what the case against masks is, particularly since, if generally worn, they might prevent people who don't know they're carrying from spreading.

    There are arguments that mask-wearing might breed a false sense of security, and mask wearing prompts some to keep putting hands to faces to re-position etc. Well, people - you'd hope - can learn, and maybe seat belts and crash helmets promote faster, riskier driving and riding in some; the benefits are still considered to outweigh the risks.

    I'd add that wearing masks is a visual signal that reminds people that things aren't normal and helps maintain the understanding that caution and keeping distance are required.
    Japanese wear masks all the time and they have it pretty under control relative to most places. Also, even before this they had hand sanitiser at entrances to many buildings. When you go into an 'izakaya', which is like a pub/restaurant, everyone gets given a wet towel to clean their hands.

    Them using masks so often, basically when ever they have a cold, means that they're normal everyday items so all the shops there hold sock. Sadly not the case here. The 'masks don't work' message is most likely due to the shortage. Common sense dictates that if they protect a nurse against the virus they would protect anyone else too.

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    With masks and other precautions, it's easy to fall into seeing one side of an interaction. My local hospital has long discouraged people from coming in unless they had a very good reason. I thought it was so visitors wouldn't catch things from all those sick people! In fact, it was primarily to protect the patients from people bringing in their infections.

    The city I live in has a large population of Chinese students. They often, in pre-virus times, wear masks in the streets. I used to think it was either a bit paranoid or a sarcastic comment on the air quality (apparently it's not great here, anyway) but I now realise it was thoughtfully keeping their own germs to themselves.

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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    Maybe after this its a cultural norm more countries will adopt. People probably should think more about the transmission of illnesses more generally. Flu kills people too and sick people wearing masks would also prevent the transmission of flu. I bet the police with with their facial recognition cameras aren't very keen on that idea tho.

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    Default Re: Lockdown effect on fishing ?

    Japan is in a state of panic at the moment,things are worsening after an announcement by their prime minister...yesterday i believe...

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