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    Default Re: Through Action Rod ?

    For years I struggled along with a couple of old glass pike rods I made. Money was a problem. They were certainly through action!
    They did the job of playing fish OK but as to casting a deadbait any distance that was not OK.

    My two Shimano rods with a more progressive action are much more pleasant.

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    If we have any older generation sea anglers the change can be seen most dramatically when we look at old beach casting rods compared to the rods we use today for the same purpose. Though action rods were common in the 60and 70s in contract the rods today,they are so stiff the rod hardly bends even when playing a fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trotter2 View Post
    If we have any older generation sea anglers the change can be seen most dramatically when we look at old beach casting rods compared to the rods we use today for the same purpose. Though action rods were common in the 60and 70s in contract the rods today,they are so stiff the rod hardly bends even when playing a fish.
    I think the problem is many rods are now made for distance casting not fish playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottskev View Post

    Of course there are some excellent rods that contrive to combine fast striking and forgiving tips with non-locking playing actions.

    I think I have a few that fit that description Kev....you described that well .
    I'm not sure if some people would describe them as being a progressive action, because they have a fast strike and are quite tippy, the same as a spliced tip almost, until enough pressure is exerted at which point the rods start to bend through through the middle and when enough pressure is put on they bend into the butt. I think those are perfect for float fishing on the river.
    I have the browning spliced tip rods and although quite a stiff bottom and middle section they do bend through under load, so a very nice action. I'm yet to find out for sure but I think the spliced tip may not be so good for hitting fish at distance on the trott. Reason I say this is because the tip is so soft and folds easier on the strike so not driving the hook home so well as a hollow tipped rod with a more powerful tip section. If I live through this virus i'll be interested to see if my theory is correct or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger View Post
    I think I have a few that fit that description Kev....you described that well .
    I'm not sure if some people would describe them as being a progressive action, because they have a fast strike and are quite tippy, the same as a spliced tip almost, until enough pressure is exerted at which point the rods start to bend through through the middle and when enough pressure is put on they bend into the butt. I think those are perfect for float fishing on the river.
    I have the browning spliced tip rods and although quite a stiff bottom and middle section they do bend through under load, so a very nice action. I'm yet to find out for sure but I think the spliced tip may not be so good for hitting fish at distance on the trott. Reason I say this is because the tip is so soft and folds easier on the strike so not driving the hook home so well as a hollow tipped rod with a more powerful tip section. If I live through this virus i'll be interested to see if my theory is correct or not.
    Hi Tigger,

    Re: the Browning spliced tip rods, I've not had any problem setting the hooks or bumping fish, although distance is relative I suppose. If I keep a tight line to the float a simple flick of the rod is enough, bearing in mind I tend to fish fine with small barbless hooks or B560s with the barb crimped down. I tend to use the 13'6" for stick float fishing (where if I have to go more than 25 yards I'm not feeding properly) or the 15'6" on the bolo where I'm likely to run up to twice that distance.
    Last edited by rob48; 29-03-2020 at 13:02.

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    To answer the spliced tip question .
    A lot of the very early spliced tip rods had this problem were the tip was soft to absorb the strike when light float and fine tackle was used. The problems started when the transition from spliced tip to hollow blank section did not provide a smooth transition of power. The spliced tip would bottom out and crack you snapped off ,sprung the hook or ripped out of the fish. This was common and it took some time for manufacturing to get this right. Once hollow tips could be made fine enough to do the job actions became more progressive. Now technology is so good it's possible to have a fast rod with a progressive action down the blank. Instead of a poker with a tip that bottoms out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob48 View Post
    Hi Tigger,

    Re: the Browning spliced tip rods, I've not had any problem setting the hooks or bumping fish, although distance is relative I suppose. If I keep a tight line to the float a simple flick of the rod is enough, bearing in mind I tend to fish fine with small barbless hooks or B560s with the barb crimped down. I tend to use the 13'6" for stick float fishing (where if I have to go more than 25 yards I'm not feeding properly) or the 15'6" on the bolo where I'm likely to run twice that distance.

    Trotting at those shorter distances isn't quite the same. I very often cast 25 yards across the flow before the trott starts. To hit fish/set the hook a simple flick of the wrist won't set the hook properly and then you would most likely start missing/bumping fish. That would apply wether your line is tight to the float or not.

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    I'm having no issues with the Brownings at far more extreme ranges. I'm not having to resort to excessive sweeping striking methods either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger View Post
    Trotting at those shorter distances isn't quite the same. I very often cast 25 yards across the flow before the trott starts. To hit fish/set the hook a simple flick of the wrist won't set the hook properly and then you would most likely start missing/bumping fish. That would apply wether your line is tight to the float or not.
    I often cast further across the river than that with a bolo float and then let it run up to 50 yards. It's easy enough to keep a direct line to a 4 or 5gr float so I only have to tighten up to set the hook. Bigger barbed hooks might be a problem I suppose but I rarely use those for float fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam vimes View Post
    I'm having no issues with the Brownings at far more extreme ranges. I'm not having to resort to excessive sweeping striking methods either.
    Chris, from this conversation so far I can only conclude that yourself and rob48 are better at trotting than me, I do admire you both if you can practice what you preach.
    I don't consider myself to have weak wrists, but there is no way I can flick my wrist and be sure to set a hook at 70 to a 100yds, I just can't do it. I mean, even the stretch in the line and bend in the rod has to be accounted for at those kind'a ranges.
    I'd love to witness your skills being applied...really I would, maybe you could teach me something new, which would be great for me .
    Possibly all three of us could meet up after all this commotion and I can be a pupil?
    I read this post through and it does sound a little sarcastic, but it isn't meant to be, so don't take it the wrong way.
    Last edited by tigger; 29-03-2020 at 14:09.

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