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    In one of my even more stupid than usual moments, I had the absolutely brainless idea to submit a book synopsis to Medlar Press. I got, as expected, the usual slapped wrist of a rejection rebuff for having the temerity to even suggest such a thing.

    So far, plus ca change, as our French colleagues would say. But tucked away in the rejection there was a phase, and such was the condescending tone, the impact was like being hit by a snowball with a carefully concealed rock at its core.

    The no doubt delightful writer of the note, Rosie Ward-Allen, informed me that although my writing style might be of interest to the members of FishingMagic, it was not for them.It seems that when it comes to things literary, the likes of you and me are bottom of the food chain.

    No doubt Medlar and other publishing houses feel they are at the apex of that chain, then the monthly angling press, followed by the weeklies, and then us lot down on the websites.It never seems to occur to the likes of Medlar that we are not three separate groups of readers, and we should not be banded (or is that branded…?) as such.

    The majority of anglers will read anything if it is of interest to them, and the medium it is presented on is of less importance than the content. We do not all have to be degree-holding intellectuals to purchase and enjoy books by Medlar, nor do we need IQ ratings in single figures before we can appreciate angling websites.

    The final paradox to this is that although I took the time to carefully type, print and post off my synopsis to Medlar, their reply came in the form of an email, so it seems the internet is good for something……….!
    Still not sure what's going on

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    Kevin,

    It must be quite soul destroying to receive any rejection, but one worded as you describe sounds like twisting the damn knife.

    I wonder what the ratio of books on the shelf to rejection letters actually is?

    I would agree though that the majority of anglers will read anything if the subject matter is of interest to them - even the weeklies (nah, only JOKING Greg)

    [insert smiling thing - it as it really was a joke]

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    Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary. ~

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    Hi Peter

    I wasn't expecting a correspondence course from Medlar on 'How to get your idea published with us' but by the same token, I didn't like the implication that FM members were somehow a different breed to other anglers

    I wouldn't mind if all the tomes that Medlar put out were literary classics, but the Walker biography should certainly be more at homein the fiction section given the amount of burnishing that was applied to RW's character. Seems every flaw was carefully airbrushed out to protect the demi-god status, IMHO........!

    (Won't be getting any books to review now, I suspect...!)
    Still not sure what's going on

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    Somebody still loves you, Kevin[img]/forum/smilies/big_smile_smiley.gif[/img]

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    Thanks Fred,

    Don't think I'll be getting a Valentines card from Rosie Ward-Allen this year though...!!!
    Still not sure what's going on

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    Kevin

    I fear I might get the same reply when I send in my addition to the good book from my recent thread (no defunked)

    I'm like a dog with a boner sorry that should read bone[img]/forum/smilies/devil_smiley.gif[/img]

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    M'lud

    I'm surprised you don't have a seat on the board at Muddler Press. Your no-nonsense manner of dealing with underlings and common riff-raff is just what they are looking for, I should imagine.
    Still not sure what's going on

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    Kevin,

    Put it down to experience. A publisher that tells you their opinion is brutal but better in some ways than a simple no. If getting published was easy everyone would be doing it, and as Peter rightly pointed out, there are an awful lot more rejections than acceptances.

    Medlar have to try to get their potential market right; they've expanded their production recently in terms of titles published and no doubt will be taking a chance with some. But the ultimate aim of any publisher is to make money so sometimes they will turn down a book that later does well placed elsewhere.

    Istill have a file of rejection letters circa 2000/2001 and it certainly taught me a lot about getting published.

    There is a difference between short articles on FM and a book, and even between articles on FM and in magazines. Understanding that difference is not always easy but essential.

    The elements to getting published go far beyond good writing and a good idea. Luck plays a part as does timing, and knowing the right people helps, as does not burning your bridges!

    One day though...

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    Keep at it Kevin, that Wintle bloke knows what he's on about........

    Seriously mate, you've got what it takes, it's just a case of finding the "X" factor that "they" want.

    Don't get frustrated, use it for future reference. Who knows, they might be telling you what they want through their rejections? Never burn those bridges........

    Good luck and chin up mate, it will happen!

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    <blockquote class=quoteheader>Kevin Perkins wrote (see)</blockquote><blockquote class=quote>........I didn't like the implication that FM members were somehow a different breed to other anglers
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    oh, but we are Kevin [img]/forum/smilies/smile_smiley.gif[/img]

    have you thought of speaking to someone like Mark Cunnington? He hasn't done too badly with his &quot;Syndicate&quot; sextuplet - cant see too many publishers giving the origional synopsis a chance!

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