Drennan Acolyte 13ft Ultra

[iain t]

The ultra has just a fraction more power than the matchpro. But its not a lot you would need to have them both side by side to feel a difference.

The plus is not a beefy rod either it just slightly more powerful than the Ultra. I would say to me it looks and feels more versatile covering more possibility's but not over powerful it cant cope with some finesse fishing.
I know a lot of lads who use the plus for general river trotting for anything from dace to large swale chub.

Most Drennan shops will have the full selection in stock so check them out.
The darlo shop does anyway.

Took the words out of my mouth. No way is the plus a poker by any means. I have the 13ft Ultra and a 14ft plus that i use for trotting and still water. In my view the plus is a much better all round float rod. It' got the back bone for Carp, Chub, Tench etc whilst still a tip that shows even the little knocks from small Roach. I use the Drennan FD300 for still waters and a pin for trotting. The plus is a much more versatile rod between the 2. My 13ft ultra mostly sits in my man cave and to be honest i don't think ive even used it this session. The max line i would use on my 14ft plus is 5.6lb floatfish or 6lb Perlon. Going up to 12lb is just stupid and looking for trouble.

 

[S-Kippy]

I agree It would be great for anglers like S-Kippy if you could also buy rod sleeves without the reel bulge, as long as there were enough people wanting them to make it commercially viable.

Keith

Not just me, Keith. I think a lot of people would buy them. Miles better than a rod bag in terms of protection IMO.

 

[thames mudlarker]

Not just me, Keith. I think a lot of people would buy them. Miles better than a rod bag in terms of protection IMO.

I sure definitely would :thumbs:

I'd buy a good few of em and can then use em for other rods that have eaither damage cloth bags or rods that have no bag at all

And I bet there's loads of anglers out there with good rods that they've picked up in there travels that are minus a rod bag

 

[tigger]

Not just me, Keith. I think a lot of people would buy them. Miles better than a rod bag in terms of protection IMO.

I wouldn't, I can't see the point of them in that form at all as you can't take your rod made up or with the reel attached and it doesn't give anything like the protection of a rod bag and tube, it also takes up a lot more room than a tube....in'it :w.

 

[S-Kippy]

I wouldn't, I can't see the point of them in that form at all as you can't take your rod made up or with the reel attached and it doesn't give anything like the protection of a rod bag and tube, it also takes up a lot more room than a tube....in'it :w.

Keep up.....that's the whole point. Not everybody wants to carry their rods made up and with the reel attached. I certainly don't hence my crusading rant against rods that only come in a sleeve that basically forces you to carry them this way. The biggest culprit being Mr Drennan and his Chinese supplier Mr Lun Chun Meet.

No... a padded sleeve doesn't offer as much protection as a tube but it offers more protection than a rod bag and it would fit in my quiver whereas these things with a reel humph dont. I can get 3-4 rods plus a landing net pole inside my Korum 2 rod quiver........ or 1 rod in one of these humpity sleeve jobs. So I end up carrying the quiver and the sleeve separately which is the biggest PITA since the Big Fellah upstairs created bleak. It would be fine if I was an octopus but sadly I'm not.

I'm still not having it and never will.

 

[tigger]

Keep up.....that's the whole point. Not everybody wants to carry their rods made up and with the reel attached. I certainly don't hence my crusading rant against rods that only come in a sleeve that basically forces you to carry them this way. The biggest culprit being Mr Drennan and his Chinese supplier Mr Lun Chun Meet.

No... a padded sleeve doesn't offer as much protection as a tube but it offers more protection than a rod bag and it would fit in my quiver whereas these things with a reel humph dont. I can get 3-4 rods plus a landing net pole inside my Korum 2 rod quiver........ or 1 rod in one of these humpity sleeve jobs. So I end up carrying the quiver and the sleeve separately which is the biggest PITA since the Big Fellah upstairs created bleak. It would be fine if I was an octopus but sadly I'm not.

I'm still not having it and never will.

I got shut of the korum quiver and got the drennan super specialist, the drennan sleeves fit onto the quiver and all your other bits go on the opposite side or in the middle. It was the best solution and set up I could find but I still don't like it though .

 

[S-Kippy]

I got shut of the korum quiver and got the drennan super specialist, the drennan sleeves fit onto the quiver and all your other bits go on the opposite side or in the middle. It was the best solution and set up I could find but I still don't like it though .

I've got both. Personally I prefer the Korum not least because its quite slim and stops me carrying too much gear which I am prone to do. And my rods always go in the middle.... never on the outside.

 

[tigger]

I've got both. Personally I prefer the Korum not least because its quite slim and stops me carrying too much gear which I am prone to do. And my rods always go in the middle.... never on the outside.

You've lost me Skippy...why not keep them in their cloth bags in a tube where you know they're safest? Obviously you'll know you can get some nice slim tubes for this purpose in tinted or clear plastic so you can see what rods are in them.

 

[sam vimes]

Goodness gracious me! I'm struggling with the concept of tackling up being such a rush, unless it's a match scenario. Rushing around like a blue arsed fly is an absolute antithesis for my angling. I don't even care if I'm snatching just an hour or two. I want to take my time, contemplate the water in front of me and decide my plan (where to feed, what float to use, etc). The thought of me finding it necessary to use pre-tackled two piece float rods leaves me cold. The prospect of discounting the use of so many great three piece rods has me breaking out in a bit of a cold sweat!

I'd probably think differently if I only fished commies and small stillwaters. However, that won't be happening as long as I'm physically able to manage a yomp along a river.

 

[S-Kippy]

You've lost me Skippy...why not keep them in their cloth bags in a tube where you know they're safest? Obviously you'll know you can get some nice slim tubes for this purpose in tinted or clear plastic so you can see what rods are in them.

I do. Not every rod but those that I think are most likely to get damaged. Ironically usually Drennans !

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Goodness gracious me! I'm struggling with the concept of tackling up being such a rush, unless it's a match scenario. Rushing around like a blue arsed fly is an absolute antithesis for my angling. I don't even care if I'm snatching just an hour or two. I want to take my time, contemplate the water in front of me and decide my plan (where to feed, what float to use, etc). The thought of me finding it necessary to use pre-tackled two piece float rods leaves me cold. The prospect of discounting the use of so many great three piece rods has me breaking out in a bit of a cold sweat!

I'd probably think differently if I only fished commies and small stillwaters. However, that won't be happening as long as I'm physically able to manage a yomp along a river.

Good man....... that's it in a Nutshell.

 

[thames mudlarker]

I wouldn't, I can't see the point of them in that form at all as you can't take your rod made up or with the reel attached and it doesn't give anything like the protection of a rod bag and tube, it also takes up a lot more room than a tube....in'it :w.

Can sort of see what yer say Ian but depends on if there the thick padded type or just the light weight nylon type

I'd personally wouldn't have an issue with using the nylon types as these can obviously be folded up to the same size as a std cloth rod bag and placed in a side pocket of yer back / rucksack :thumbs:

The nylon sleeves being similar to a std cloth rod bag I suppose won't act as a full protection like say a tube would but will definitely give some safe assurance of some kind of protection IE against being slightly knocked or scratched etc

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Keep up.....that's the whole point. Not everybody wants to carry their rods made up and with the reel attached. I certainly don't hence my crusading rant against rods that only come in a sleeve that basically forces you to carry them this way. The biggest culprit being Mr Drennan and his Chinese supplier Mr Lun Chun Meet.

No... a padded sleeve doesn't offer as much protection as a tube but it offers more protection than a rod bag and it would fit in my quiver whereas these things with a reel humph dont. I can get 3-4 rods plus a landing net pole inside my Korum 2 rod quiver........ or 1 rod in one of these humpity sleeve jobs. So I end up carrying the quiver and the sleeve separately which is the biggest PITA since the Big Fellah upstairs created bleak. It would be fine if I was an octopus but sadly I'm not.

I'm still not having it and never will.

Don't worry Skip I can certainly see and understand in exactly where yer coming from and have to say that yer absolutely right :thumbs:

I completely agree, well said,

If only a few decent companies would come up with this idea, it would certainly make sence and save a lot of agg for many

I actually wander how many tackle company directors sit and actually read through these forums, it's about time they stop
f ##ting about and actually produce some practical gear :wh

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Goodness gracious me! I'm struggling with the concept of tackling up being such a rush, unless it's a match scenario. Rushing around like a blue arsed fly is an absolute antithesis for my angling. I don't even care if I'm snatching just an hour or two. I want to take my time, contemplate the water in front of me and decide my plan (where to feed, what float to use, etc). The thought of me finding it necessary to use pre-tackled two piece float rods leaves me cold. The prospect of discounting the use of so many great three piece rods has me breaking out in a bit of a cold sweat!

I'd probably think differently if I only fished commies and small stillwaters. However, that won't be happening as long as I'm physically able to manage a yomp along a river.

Absolutely Chris, couldn't agree more, I'll second that :thumbs:

 

[Richox12]

Keep up.....that's the whole point. Not everybody wants to carry their rods made up and with the reel attached. I certainly don't hence my crusading rant against rods that only come in a sleeve that basically forces you to carry them this way. The biggest culprit being Mr Drennan and his Chinese supplier Mr Lun Chun Meet.

No... a padded sleeve doesn't offer as much protection as a tube but it offers more protection than a rod bag and it would fit in my quiver whereas these things with a reel humph dont. I can get 3-4 rods plus a landing net pole inside my Korum 2 rod quiver........ or 1 rod in one of these humpity sleeve jobs. So I end up carrying the quiver and the sleeve separately which is the biggest PITA since the Big Fellah upstairs created bleak. It would be fine if I was an octopus but sadly I'm not.

I'm still not having it and never will.

Get a cloth bag with just ONE big compartment or one made for a 2pc rod and simply remove the centre stitching which divides it to make one big compartment. Get some 5mm Ethafoam sheet or similar, cut it into the correct sized rectangle, fold it over into half and then insert it into said empty cloth bag. Hey Presto !! You’ve made a padded bag in the same way as Hardcases are made.

 

[tigger]

Can sort of see what yer say Ian but depends on if there the thick padded type or just the light weight nylon type

I'd personally wouldn't have an issue with using the nylon types as these can obviously be folded up to the same size as a std cloth rod bag and placed in a side pocket of yer back / rucksack :thumbs:

The nylon sleeves being similar to a std cloth rod bag I suppose won't act as a full protection like say a tube would but will definitely give some safe assurance of some kind of protection IE against being slightly knocked or scratched etc

I think you've all lost me .

If you have a padded sleeve without the reel bump on it and use it for transporting a rod which is going to be stored in the centre pouch of a holdall or quiver the rod can still be easily damaged....other things pressing on it will still crush the guides . Also padded sleeve like that would be just as heavy as a tube and would be more bulky. If you want to take a rod unmade up like that then surely having the rod in it's cloth bag and in a tube is far better, being less bulky and giving far better protection to the rod....I just don't get why anyone would want a padded sleeve unless they where to have the rod made up with the reel intact.

 

[Richox12]

It seems you’ve lost yourself: ‘a padded sleeve doesn't offer as much protection as a tube but it offers more protection than a rod bag and it would fit in my quiver’ – hence my suggestion. But then you state ‘If you have a padded sleeve without the reel bump on it and use it for transporting a rod which is going to be stored in the centre pouch of a holdall or quiver the rod can still be easily damaged....other things pressing on it will still crush the guides’. You need to make your mind up here.

Tube: rod in bag in tube fits Quiver and doesn’t allow rod to be crushed. Can get more than one in Quiver.

Padded Sleeve with NO hump for reel: fits in Quiver and protects rod but not as well as tube. Can get more than one in Quiver.

Padded Sleeve with hump for reel: fits in Quiver but reduces space so less rods can be carried. So other padded sleeves need to be carried separately.

You takes your pick.

 

[tigger]

It seems you’ve lost yourself: ‘a padded sleeve doesn't offer as much protection as a tube but it offers more protection than a rod bag and it would fit in my quiver’ – hence my suggestion. But then you state ‘If you have a padded sleeve without the reel bump on it and use it for transporting a rod which is going to be stored in the centre pouch of a holdall or quiver the rod can still be easily damaged....other things pressing on it will still crush the guides’. You need to make your mind up here.

Tube: rod in bag in tube fits Quiver and doesn’t allow rod to be crushed. Can get more than one in Quiver.

Padded Sleeve with NO hump for reel: fits in Quiver and protects rod but not as well as tube. Can get more than one in Quiver.

Padded Sleeve with hump for reel: fits in Quiver but reduces space so less rods can be carried. So other padded sleeves need to be carried separately.

You takes your pick.

what are you on about.

This is like a mind bender ffs mg:

 

[S-Kippy]

I think you've all lost me .

If you have a padded sleeve without the reel bump on it and use it for transporting a rod which is going to be stored in the centre pouch of a holdall or quiver the rod can still be easily damaged....other things pressing on it will still crush the guides . Also padded sleeve like that would be just as heavy as a tube and would be more bulky. If you want to take a rod unmade up like that then surely having the rod in it's cloth bag and in a tube is far better, being less bulky and giving far better protection to the rod....I just don't get why anyone would want a padded sleeve unless they where to have the rod made up with the reel intact.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree if we are talking solely about rod protection. My rant is primarily directed against rod sleeves which only seem to be available with reel humphs and that certain rods only seem to be available in one of said sleeves....and without a rod bag I might add.

 

[thames mudlarker]

I think you've all lost me .

If you have a padded sleeve without the reel bump on it and use it for transporting a rod which is going to be stored in the centre pouch of a holdall or quiver the rod can still be easily damaged....other things pressing on it will still crush the guides . Also padded sleeve like that would be just as heavy as a tube and would be more bulky. If you want to take a rod unmade up like that then surely having the rod in it's cloth bag and in a tube is far better, being less bulky and giving far better protection to the rod....I just don't get why anyone would want a padded sleeve unless they where to have the rod made up with the reel intact.

Na mate you might of slightly misunderstood when I mentioned about the light weight nylon bag, yea in a quiver or holdall yep I quite agree that the rod will still possibly get damaged,

However i did mention earlier some time that with my style of fishing I don't use any quiver / holdall what so ever,

I simply use one rod that is eaither kept in a cloth rod bag or a nylon rod sleeve and then the rod is just simply with the use of a couple of elastic bands just elasticated to me 6 ft landing net pole,

As you've probably gathered that I don't leave any rod set up as I much prefer to pack my gear away properly and start fresh by setting up on the bank on my next visit to the river, I'm not in a match and so have got all of the time in the world so to speak in when it comes to setting up, I actually like setting up whilst on the bank as it gives me time to observe the water at the same time.

I've always done this for many years as its so very light and easy to carry, I can't donk the top of the rod in any way because I allow the landing net handle to be a little higher above the rod top by a couple of inches or so if this makes sense.
As mentioned earlier I've done away with the hard cases, quivers, tubes and holdall years ago but this is purely because most of me fishing is roving considerable distances along the river banks,

I simply don't wanna be carrying an empty rod bag around with me all day long that is just more to carry and end up by getting in me blimmin way

Speak soon

 

[greenie62]

I think you've all lost me ....

Well Done, Lads! It took long enough! mg:

 

[tigger]

I wouldn't necessarily disagree if we are talking solely about rod protection. My rant is primarily directed against rod sleeves which only seem to be available with reel humphs and that certain rods only seem to be available in one of said sleeves....and without a rod bag I might add.

I have seen some rods that come in a cloth bag and inside a padded sleeve (with no bump for a reel) I think the rods i've seen are preston rods, maybe the carbon active rods? If I remember rightly they didn't have a handle or strap of any kind on them though. It might be worth you checking it out and possibly get one of the sleeves in right length to accommodate your rod.

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Na mate you might of slightly misunderstood when I mentioned about the light weight nylon bag, yea in a quiver or holdall yep I quite agree that the rod will still possibly get damaged,

However i did mention earlier some time that with my style of fishing I don't use any quiver / holdall what so ever,

I simply use one rod that is eaither kept in a cloth rod bag or a nylon rod sleeve and then the rod is just simply with the use of a couple of elastic bands just elasticated to me 6 ft landing net pole,

As you've probably gathered that I don't leave any rod set up as I much prefer to pack my gear away properly and start fresh by setting up on the bank on my next visit to the river, I'm not in a match and so have got all of the time in the world so to speak in when it comes to setting up, I actually like setting up whilst on the bank as it gives me time to observe the water at the same time.

I've always done this for many years as its so very light and easy to carry, I can't donk the top of the rod in any way because I allow the landing net handle to be a little higher above the rod top by a couple of inches or so if this makes sense.
As mentioned earlier I've done away with the hard cases, quivers, tubes and holdall years ago but this is purely because most of me fishing is roving considerable distances along the river banks,

I simply don't wanna be carrying an empty rod bag around with me all day long that is just more to carry and end up by getting in me blimmin way

Speak soon

Yeah TM I get all that as I very rarely take anything other than the rod and reel made up and held together with bands. I do have the cloth bag and tube in the car for when i've finished fishing. I really do prefer to take as little as possible with m e when I go trotting because same as you I spend a lot of the time walking between swims and can cover quite a lot of ground.
If I was using public transport as you do I think i'd take a tube that snugly fitted my rod inside it and hide the tube at the venue but if your confident with your routine then your laugh-in as you are .

 

[S-Kippy]

I have seen some rods that come in a cloth bag and inside a padded sleeve (with no bump for a reel) I think the rods i've seen are preston rods, maybe the carbon active rods? If I remember rightly they didn't have a handle or strap of any kind on them though. It might be worth you checking it out and possibly get one of the sleeves in right length to accommodate your rod.

Yep...the Carbonactives do [or did] come like that. I've got one. More like a zippy up pouch/wallet than a sleeve but the right sort of thing and I'd happily ditch humpity for one of these if they are still available. Somehow I doubt it knowing my luck. mg: