I know the type of fishing you do,what type of budget you looking at mate? gaz The MAP 501 is a very popular choice at the moment,Daiwa tdxr 4 or 5,Maver Elite carp,or Elite All-round,you,ll need at least 6 top kits,plus cupping kit,you are better off getting over to Fosters,and giving some a little waggle,it does,nt really give you a true idea of strength ,reliablity on the bank etc,but you will get an idea of which one(s) you like,and the lads there will be very helpful,other than that try Banks and Burr@Rugby and ask keith to run you through whats available in you,re price range.Dont listen to people who dont match fish telling you that you only need a couple of top kits cos you will need more ,i,ve got 10 for my Elite and its still not enough!,cheers again Gaz,might see you later at TBF