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    Default Sealey "Octopus ESS" logo

    Hi folks - was wondering if anyone knew of anywhere I could get hold of an "octopus ESS" logo for an Edgar Sealey Octofloat rod I am doing up at the moment. The logo is the one in gold and green with the wording "Octopus" "ESS" and Registered trade mark and a green octopus on it

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    Edgar Sealey changed their logo twice before closing for business in the late Sixties, I'm afraid. Having branded their rods as Octofloat for some time, with a green octopus logo, they carried on with the name but dropped the logo for two intertwined fish, later stylised in a more modern style just before the end came.
    Like most companies, they were experimenting with fibreglass as well as carrying on with cane, so some of their rods appear with either logo, in cane or 'glass and even a mixture of the two.

    They made the Octofloat, with white ceramic lined tip and butt rings, the Octofloat Deluxe with those rings replaced with agate lined ones and a reel holder of two rings on a floating tube ( I like it, many don't, ....but we all agree it is ruddy cold in winter) and then the Octofloat 2 in pale brown, un gelled fibreglass. Once the gel-coat technology was established they did a number of match rods such as the Blue Arrow, Black Arrow and Featherlight rods.


    I have heard of unscrupulous restorers with access to laser jet printers making up labels for highly prized rods, but I think an Octofloat is below their target victims, I'm afraid.

    If the rod is for re-sale, I'd leave it with whatever is left on it, if it's for you to use then it is for you to choose. Not a bad rod, and fetching more money of late than for many a year. If you are trying to re-whip it in original silk, you may go to your grave before you find the right red/green jasper ...I thought I'd found some but the ratio between the two colours was wrong.
    The Indifferent Crucian.

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    I should have said...if you want to have a go at painting something on yourself, I have some photographs of the various Sealey logos.
    The Indifferent Crucian.

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    Thanks for your responses Indifferent Crucian ! The rod is for my Mrs - I have an earlier Octofloat and bought this one (with the cold metal reel sleeve!) and wanted to do it up - the rod is in very good shape (the original whippings appear to be white/black - I have some similar thread), but the logo's are fairly shot through- hence the reason for the request. I guess I will have to go with the plain "two fish" logo and make up the other "made by Sealey England one myself (I have done this using Word and then will use ink-jet transfers - these have worked well for a rod I made from scratch myself.....

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    I had heard this could be done with inkjet transfers. I almost wish it couldn't as I'm sure the technology will be misused by somebody eventually. Indeed I was warned to avoid one dealer for that very reason.

    Nevertheless, how marvellous to be able to 'finish' a restoration job off like that.

    On another forum a chap showed how he had created a digital image for a particularly sought after rod and the idea was mooted about making a deliberate error to lessen the chance of any deception...in this case by altering the patent application number.

    I notice your avatar has a tench and ...is that an Octofloat? The handle looks right.
    The Indifferent Crucian.

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    Yep - I have an earlier OCTOFLOAT(with an old Trudex in this case), and the one I am doing up for the mem sahib is a later Octofloat de-luxe (with black reel "sleeve" and reel fixings, black winding check and rod butt cap. The transfers were tatty as where the whippings (in white and black jasper incidentally - interesting what you said about red/green- and yes have trawled the internet for this but to no avail so black/white it will have to be!).The rod is actually in really good shape -now all striped down to the raw cane (one ferrule needs glueing back on it was a tad loose). The logos were the usual "made by "Sealey" England one and the two fish logo (which I now thanks to your earlier thread think was correct) ... so will be busy in Word/ Paint and then use ink-jet wet transfer paper (Inkjet Papers and Fabrics, Window Stickers and Other Arts and Craft Materials) to create new logos - done the Sealey one and looks good. I have used this method before for a rod I build on a Norman Agutters carp blank- very good effect.

    After years of fishing (and owning more tackle than you can poke a stick at), I have come back to the pleasures of simple fishing for tench/crucians using rods that give you a real feel that you are connected to the fish and a real pleasure in owning - only taken 40+ years to reach that conclusion - give me a 2lb crucian or 5lb Tench over a 30lb "commercial" carp any day!

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    Ha ha, we are of like mind then. I often fish for tench and crucians on a pond really intended as a training place for youngsters. I don't use the same rod all the time, I too have far too many, but I invariably use the Octofloat Deluxe and a black Trudex!

    Spooky !

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    The second picture would appear to be the rod you are working on and with that change of whipping, as they also used on their glass rods,is one of the last Octofloats made. They did a glass octofloat 2 and two hollow built cane rods for another year or so before closing down.
    The Indifferent Crucian.

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    Greatly appreciate all the info - so white and black whippings probably right then (along with two fish logo). I too live by a small tench pool in deepest Surrey (Cranleigh) - getting even spookier!

    Tight lines and thanks once again for all the info

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    Some of their last rods were done in black and white or dark, dark blue and white. The very last had a different style to the two fish, more modern and abstract. I had a copy but can't find it now.


    Brace yourself......Dunsfold !
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    You're making me jealous now as I'm looking for an Octofloat. Just done up a Sealey spanish reed match rod (the one with the green anodised reel fittings) and it's a lovely rod to use.

    If you've found a source of black/white 'twist' thread could you drop me a pm as all the usual suspects are out of stock at the mo.
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