Big livebaits
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Since you've already condemned the fish to almost certain death - why not puncture the jack's swim bladder with a sharp spike - that'll stop it doing a 'crash-dive'! 
Seriously though - the old-style 'Fishing Gazette' bungs were practically unsinkable - used in conjunction with a sliding pilot bob should show you where it's going when/if it does go under!
Seriously though - the old-style 'Fishing Gazette' bungs were practically unsinkable - used in conjunction with a sliding pilot bob should show you where it's going when/if it does go under!
geoffmaynard
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Add a few more barrels Quint!
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binka
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I think i'd be inclined to try a pack of balloons and experiment with the amount of inflation required, attached either fixed or sliding via a paperclip threaded through a swivel running on the mainline.
robertroach
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Maybe I've got a weak stomach but I hate the idea of using big livebaits. I feel sorry for the poor creatures.
terry m
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Me too. I don't see the need personally to use baits of that size. A 4-6 oz is about as big as I would use and even then I prefer deads.
Derek Gibson
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Must admit to looking at this thread several times and am unable to determine if it's a wind up. If not it seems irresponsible to me in this age of enlightened pike angling, just not acceptable.
S-Kippy
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If you seriously have to ask then I think it's pointless anybody answering because you just wont have it. For my part I just think it's an inefficient, unnecessary and illconsidered thing to do and I'm saddened that you can't...or won't...see that.
Just don't do it anywhere near me please.
I have no idea tbh. Please explain. If I'm doing wrong, I'd like to know so I can amend my ways.
Derek Gibson
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Apart from an ethical standpoint which may put you at odds with other Pike anglers, there's the issue of ''hooking up'' such a bait, and how to ''control'' it when put out.
Should you get a run, how long do you leave it?
What form of bite indication would you employ?
And last but not least ''why'' would you want to use a bait so over the top, do you have a particular reason?
Also might I suggest, you re-read the replies you've had so far, as I think the concensus of opinion is clearly evident.
It's private pike syndi
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Its strange. I asked the same on a a members only pike forum, and answers were forthcoming. Not one criticism, not one moan about it being wrong or unethical
As I have said, whats unethical about using a 2-3lb jack compared to a 4-6oz roach? Or do you mean livebaits in general?
I guess that none of you are serious pike anglers or you'd know the reasons for big bait.
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Does the syndicate know what your planning on using as bait? Also, where is the bait fish going to come from?...I can't see the syndicate being very happy about you using their up and coming pike stocks...and I don't think they'd like you to use fish from other waters incase you introduced a disease etc.
bleak
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Most pike anglers take great care to look after their quarry big or small.
Now it may seem strange to some that we care more for the wellfare of a 3lb pike than an 8oz roach but ime afraid most of us do.
To take great care with bite indication, promote good fish wellfare techniques and unhooking safety it goes against the grain to start impaling our favourite species on two or maybe three huge trebles.
To most of us the end does not justify the means but I suppose there are some that to catch that big un they would do whatever they felt was neccessary.
Me? well if that was the only way I would sooner not catch.
Now it may seem strange to some that we care more for the wellfare of a 3lb pike than an 8oz roach but ime afraid most of us do.
To take great care with bite indication, promote good fish wellfare techniques and unhooking safety it goes against the grain to start impaling our favourite species on two or maybe three huge trebles.
To most of us the end does not justify the means but I suppose there are some that to catch that big un they would do whatever they felt was neccessary.
Me? well if that was the only way I would sooner not catch.
steve2
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Don't forget that all those dead baits that we say are alright to use were once live fish. All we have done is got someone else to kill them for us.