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    Default Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    Finally now a member of a big Perch water after 3 years on the waiting list

    Just trying to decide on the best live bait rig. Have trawled the net & got a few idea's of course but more idea's always welcome.

    I haven't settled on a hook pattern yet but the Fox rage drop shot hooks have been good for lob fishing for me along with
    Sukuma circle hooks. The question here is does a circle hook work with Live baits as no rig I have found on the net use circle hooks when live baiting which I find surprising ?

    Any pointers very welcome

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    Default Re: Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    I guess final choice will depend on the nature of the water your fishing…deep…weedy etc etc.

    When i was doing a bit of live baiting for them I looked at a number of different rigs but nothing really grabbed me, everyone was obsessed with low resistance but often resistance can be reduced just by making things smaller.

    Anyway I ended up using a tiny float paternoster with a Drennan Chubber float, Size 6 Drennan Super Specialist hook and 6lb line straight through although in open water I would be happy to go lower than that…maybe 4lb.


    The float was fished bottom end only so it slid on the line with a stop knot above it. The size of the float was matched to the size of the bait. All the shot was then bunched about 6 inches from the hook in a line. The paternoster link was created by taking a bit of weaker line with a lead at one end just big enough to tether the bait (usually 3/4 ounce was enough) and tying a loop in the other end of the line. Importantly the loop was tied just once not twice.
    I then slid the loop over the hook and up the line until it was above the bunched up shot. I then pulled the tag end to close the loop so it gripped the mainline (this is why the loop was only tied once). I then slid it down so it sat nicely on top of the bunched up shot, this also kicked the hook out at an angle as well helping to avoid tangles. The depth the bait was fished at could be varied with the length of the paternoster link.

    Anyway it worked really well for me.


    Circle hooks ? … not for me as I recon they are limiting your hooking capabilities not enhancing them but others swear by them.
    Last edited by Philip; 16-05-2019 at 16:51.

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    Default Re: Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    I don’t swear by them, but as a relative novice with fears of deep hooking both perch and pike , I have found circle hooks to be a blessing.

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    I would agree Circle hook are better to avoid deep hooking but thats the point in case.

    In my opinion the reason circle hooks generally catch in the Scissors is because they are basically inefficient at hooking in general else they would hook them everywhere.

    A more normal hook « risks » catching in far more places in the mouth more easily.

    Not saying they dont work...of course they do but I would much rather go with a more normal pattern & just strike early enough to avoid deep hooking.

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    Default Re: Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philip View Post
    I would agree Circle hook are better to avoid deep hooking but thats the point in case.

    In my opinion the reason circle hooks generally catch in the Scissors is because they are basically inefficient at hooking in general else they would hook them everywhere.
    A more normal hook « risks » catching in far more places in the mouth more easily.

    Not saying they dont work...of course they do but I would much rather go with a more normal pattern & just strike early enough to avoid deep hooking.
    I have you you right, normal pattern it will be. I will probably favour the drop shot hook being fine wired & made for purpose, rubber fish/real fish ...

    People are obsessed with resistance, which I get when ledgering, but when float fishing resistance is virtually redundant in my mind.

    The Complete Specialist Angler - Part Two: Perch - UK Match Angler

    I will probably settle on this rig as it makes sense to me - is that another version of what you did Phillip ?

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    Default Re: Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    Yes that's basically the same rig, different components but same principle. I also left my float sliding rather than fixed.

    One point about fine wire hooks, I know some anglers (Steve Burke for example) say to avoid them as the heart of a perch is in the back of its gullet so a fine wire going in deep could kill it.

    I think the risk is overstated as the majority of hooks will go in to the bend with a fish pulling on the end anyway but I mention in case.

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    It’s not clear to me from that diagram but make sure you have a light breaking strain piece of line going to the lead using a ring or swivel, if the perch gets you into a snag the lead will easily break free.

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    Default Re: Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    Quote Originally Posted by s63 View Post
    It’s not clear to me from that diagram but make sure you have a light breaking strain piece of line going to the lead using a ring or swivel, if the perch gets you into a snag the lead will easily break free.
    Tied some yesterday S63 for various depths with 2.7lb fluorocarbon for that reason, but sussed out after doing all that you can use a drop shot weight & adjust to suit

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    Default Re: Best Perch Live bait rig ?

    Is a drop shot weight heavy enough? When livebaiting I want my rig anchored so the livebait doesn’t stray from a given area.

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    they come in various weights S63
    Last edited by shane99; 18-05-2019 at 22:16. Reason: drinking

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