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EC
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I want to get some predator tackle, dont know as yet exactly what, but probably a lure rod and reel, plus the usual predator sundries. What is the best value for money piece/s of kit on the market currently?
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Chris Bishop
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There's some good bargains out there at the moment. Daiwa make some nice lure rods in the ?30 - ?40 bracket. I'd avoid getting a cheapie ?20 job, as these tend to be a bit floppy.
How about one of the previous generation of baitrunners - you can still get them from one or two places, would double for bait fishing if you decided to give that a go.
Lures are pretty bewildering and some cost an arm and a leg, yet there are simple staples which will catch for a couple of quid; Shakespeare Big S plugs and spoons are two good examples.
There's a great book which covers virtually all the methods available from the Pike Anglers Club for ?6 - Piking Beyond 2000. It's got a section on starting out lure fishing.
How about one of the previous generation of baitrunners - you can still get them from one or two places, would double for bait fishing if you decided to give that a go.
Lures are pretty bewildering and some cost an arm and a leg, yet there are simple staples which will catch for a couple of quid; Shakespeare Big S plugs and spoons are two good examples.
There's a great book which covers virtually all the methods available from the Pike Anglers Club for ?6 - Piking Beyond 2000. It's got a section on starting out lure fishing.
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Peter Waller
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A good reel, about ?50.00, should do the bizz. Bewildering choice but the Mitchell 300 Pro X is worth looking at. The ABU CD reels are available from Brundall Angling at less than ?50.00 and are pretty darn excellent. Rods, about 7 to 8 feet, about ?50.00, look at Shimano & ABU & you won't be far off the mark. Enjoy your fishing.
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EC
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Thinking about it I have probably got reels that will suffice, the rod and basic terminal tackle are a must. What about a tackle shop even, with a predator specialist behind the counter, who could sort me out over the phone, any suggestions?
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Gerry Castles
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First lure rod on a fixed spool reel? Look for something from ABU, Daiwa, Shimano, can't go too far wrong if you stick to the major names. Something rated for up to
50-60 grams will get you fishing with most lures. Chris is right, don't pay too little, you'll be very disappointed.
www.harrisangling.co.uk is probably your best bet for a 'one hit' for lures/traces/clips/unhooking pliers/unhooking mat. Ask for Sue or Chris they'll put you on the right track. Don't get carried away with too many lures, look for 6-7 inexpensive good catchers like the Shakespeare Big S, 8 and 6 inch Mag grubs, Bomber Long A, these are all lures that have been around for some time and catch fish regularly. If your reel can hold a reasonable quantity of 30lb braid (equal in size to 12lb mono)then use it. Don't mess about with mono, braid will be a revelation if you haven't used it for lures before. Get 150yds of 30lb Berkely Fireline from www.summerlands.co.uk. Top line, top price (about ?10 for 150yds)
Get Charlie Bettell's book on lure fishing, good read and take a look at his site at www.esox.co.uk for advice and a few tips.
50-60 grams will get you fishing with most lures. Chris is right, don't pay too little, you'll be very disappointed.
www.harrisangling.co.uk is probably your best bet for a 'one hit' for lures/traces/clips/unhooking pliers/unhooking mat. Ask for Sue or Chris they'll put you on the right track. Don't get carried away with too many lures, look for 6-7 inexpensive good catchers like the Shakespeare Big S, 8 and 6 inch Mag grubs, Bomber Long A, these are all lures that have been around for some time and catch fish regularly. If your reel can hold a reasonable quantity of 30lb braid (equal in size to 12lb mono)then use it. Don't mess about with mono, braid will be a revelation if you haven't used it for lures before. Get 150yds of 30lb Berkely Fireline from www.summerlands.co.uk. Top line, top price (about ?10 for 150yds)
Get Charlie Bettell's book on lure fishing, good read and take a look at his site at www.esox.co.uk for advice and a few tips.
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EC
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Thanks for the advice fellas, which rod though,thats the thing, whats the best out there currently on the market preferably for under ?70, or is there a shop you know of which has a major sale or special on at the moment?
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Martin Klucniks
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I went on Badger and they`ve got a deadbaiting steup of 2x pike rod
2x big reel
Pod, Alarms drop-off etc.
2x big reel
Pod, Alarms drop-off etc.
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Gerry Castles
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I think somebody on this forum got a Daiwa Vulcan from www.nimpopo.com about a tenner cheaper than the rest. Make sure it is rated for up to 50-60 grams and is carbon (not composite carbon)
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EC
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Cheers fellas, so you reckon there is not much difference between lure rods made by the different manufacturers?
Any disasters out there?
Any disasters out there?
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Chris Bishop
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Anything made of composite - no backbone to set the hooks. Vulcans are good rods - swear by mine, but I'll admit I'm still at L-plate stage when it comes to lure fishing.
Martin - if you're after a bait fishing rod, Brundall Angling are doing Marvic Pike Rods for ?59.99 at the moment, less than half price.
A seriously good all-round rod as long as you don't use mega baits or 4oz leads, top for just about everything else apart from drifting.
Martin - if you're after a bait fishing rod, Brundall Angling are doing Marvic Pike Rods for ?59.99 at the moment, less than half price.
A seriously good all-round rod as long as you don't use mega baits or 4oz leads, top for just about everything else apart from drifting.
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EC
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Does the size of the rod matter? Most rods that I see advertised that chuck up to 60g are about 10ft in length, yet several articles I have read advocate 6,7 and 8ft rods.
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Gerry Castles
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It's probable that some of the major players source their blanks from the same south east asian factory. Not saying they are not worth having, just suggesting there aint much between them at similar price levels. Possible exception is Daiwa who make most of their blanks in-house, not all but most. Daiwa, ABU, Shimano rarely make really naff rods. But you get what you pay for.
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Peter Waller
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Shakespeare also do some very fine spinning gear, greatly overlooked by the tackle tarts. Mind you, avoid Ugly Sticks, horrible soft tipped jobs albeit very tough. I once had an ABU rod & a Shakespeare one with the the sections being interchangeable, clearly coming off the same mandril. I also had the same with a Shimano & a Shakespeare rod. The Ron Thompson Steel Head range of lure rods look very impressive for the money.
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EC
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Is the size of the rod important? No puns please!
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Lee Bowen
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Being a new person to the pike fishing side of things, i think that in general the longer rods or for bank lure fishing and the shorter for boat lure fishing. I could be wrong with my assumption, I am sure that 1 of the more experienced fisherpersons on here will correct me if I have made an error.
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Phil Heaton
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I use both a 10' and a 7' lure rod, both are good casting tools as long as the recommended weight lures are used and do perform very similar, as far as distance is required.
I find that the 10' rod is better suited to open waters and the 7' better on rivers and confined spaces as it casts more accurate.
Both rods are Diawa Samuri's and were reasonably priced at around ?55 each the 7' is rated at 3 to 12 grammes and the 10'at 15 to 45 grammes.
Neither are really suited to big lures such as bulldawgs, but then again a rod that will cast a big lure will not be suitable for the smaller sizes. There is no such thing as an all round lure rod as too many compromises have to be made.
I bought the 10' rod first and after a short while found that it did not perform too well with small lures and that it out-gunned perch and chub, so at this point I bought the 7' version.
You need to decide where most of your lure fishing is to be done, the species and most probable size that you will encounter, then match this with an approximate weight of lure that you intend to use and buy the rod most suitable.
I find that the 10' rod is better suited to open waters and the 7' better on rivers and confined spaces as it casts more accurate.
Both rods are Diawa Samuri's and were reasonably priced at around ?55 each the 7' is rated at 3 to 12 grammes and the 10'at 15 to 45 grammes.
Neither are really suited to big lures such as bulldawgs, but then again a rod that will cast a big lure will not be suitable for the smaller sizes. There is no such thing as an all round lure rod as too many compromises have to be made.
I bought the 10' rod first and after a short while found that it did not perform too well with small lures and that it out-gunned perch and chub, so at this point I bought the 7' version.
You need to decide where most of your lure fishing is to be done, the species and most probable size that you will encounter, then match this with an approximate weight of lure that you intend to use and buy the rod most suitable.
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Jon Moores
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I have one of the Ron Thomson rods, an 8' 10-30g rod which I paid just under ?20 for. Excellant value. Personally I would rate it a little lower on the casting weights. I'd say that several of a cheaper range such as this covering the various sizes would certainly be better than spending all your budget on one more expensive rod and then ending up trying to cast inappropriate weights on it.
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EC
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Cheers for your help fellas, am gonna shop around to see what deals (if any) there are around at the moment. There seem to be hardly any lure rods mentioned in the ads in the weeklies or monthlies, anyone hear of any deals give me a shout..cheers!