4 piece rods

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Ron Troversial Clay

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Why is it that we have to put up with those awful long sections when we want a specialist rod. Virtually all of them are in two pieces, having horrid 6 foot joints. Why not in 4 pieces?

I know that lots of you want to carry a rod fully rigged, but you can with a 4 piece. I know that many of you think that multi-piece rods do not have good actions.

Cobblers!

I have just aquired a lovely Harrison 9 foor fly rod that has one of the best actions for this type of rod that I have ever handled.

The big advantages of 4 and more piece rods is that they can be carried in a boot unseen. They can even be carried in the hand luggage on the plane.

Roll on the day when you don't have horrid lengths of carbon cluttering up your house or your car.

Modern put over ferrules are truly wonderful these days.
 
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Ron i'm currently thinking of getting the Harrison 4 piece 1lb8oz rod made by Perigrin.
Got to agree have a couple of Harrisons but 12ft rods and they do get in the way.

Regards Jason
 
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you can get away with it for fly rods because they're all floppy anyway.
 
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Ron Troversial Clay

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You can get away with it for any modern rod I am sure.

Carp Rods, Pike rods, Barbel rods, fly rods of course, even float or match rods can be made in enough sections to fit in a suitcase.

If you think that all fly rods are floppy Jason, that is not true. Long distnce fly rods and fly rods for catching big fish are very stiff indee.
 
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I have a two piece specialist rod, which is superb for fishing with. But it's a real pain for putting in the car ready made up in two halves.
My mate had a four piece split cane trout rod, he told me he had lots of offers for it when he was up in scotland, as it would have made the perfect poachers rod for going down the side of your wellington.
 
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So my call is:

Dr. Steve Harrison, use your magic and create us some multipiece coarse fishing rods of true quality.
 
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Ron,
Whilst agreeing with you regarding modern put-over joints being far superior to brass or metal from the past, I still believe that the number of flat spots produced my multiple sections can only result in a rod that is (at best) a poor compromise, and at worst simply a novelty item.

Most (specialist) rods of 12 feet are, as you rightly say, made up of 2x6 feet sections but I have never had any problems in fitting these into a car, and for airline use I simply utilise a stout plastic tube, no worries there.

The majority of (float) rods in excess of 12 feet are typically 3 sections and even my 20 feet trotting rods are in 4 sections. I shudder to think what a 4 or 5 piece float rod's action might be?

I would think that if betterments are possible then manufacturers might start looking at detachable butt sections rather than considering (IMHO) the compromise of 3 or 4 shorter equal length sections.

Just my opinion, and of course I am sure that others will totally disagree, but then that is what makes the FM forums so enlightening :)
 
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I was always a bit wary about multi-piece rods but Ron was with me when I bought a ten foot 7 piece fly rod for taking to the US in my suitcase--I have used and caught fish on it and can vouch that there are no signs of 'flat spots'on it --In fact I would say its impossible to tell it is a seven section rod when using it
 
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I've got a 4 piece 9.5ft fly rod, 4 piece 12ft carp rod and a 5 piece 12ft Avon rod and none of them have flat spots at all.

My casting instructor thought my fly rod was great and, considering he uses St Croix rods, was a compliment indeed.

I've not had any problems with any of them.

However I don't like rods with detachable butt section as they're still too lengthy. With a 12ft rod, for instance, you'll have a butt section of 2ft approx then 2 5ft lengths of rod as well. I still find this too long to fit in the car and prefer all my tackle to be hidden in the boot, not draped over the back seat for the world and his dog to see.
 
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There's a write-up on the Harrison 4 piece 12ft specimen rod in the tackle section. He seems to think its ok.

I've just bought a Harrison Triptych (3 piece) and Harrisons assured me by email that there will definately be no flat spots.

Havn't tried it yet on the river but when I set it up in the garden I got the missus to hold the tip and I gave it a good bend, it looked fine. Lovely looking rod too.
 
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could someone give me the web address as i can't find it
 
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Ron Troversial Clay

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I'me glad you like that fly rod Ed. I also thought it had a good action and very reasonably priced to for a rod of that quality in 7 pieces. Remember all that the more pieces a rod has, the more it costs to build.

With multi-piece rods, it's all about quality. There are some very nasty multi-piece rods about. Some of the joints come apart so quickly.

At Chatsworth, Dave Colclough and Graham showed me two rods. One was a Shakespeare 4 piece 7 weight fly rod I think. I put it together and flopped it. It was OK but didn't have that essential "something" you feel when you have a class rod in your hand. (Va Va Voom is probably the latest buzz word that tells you you have something good.) The other rod was of course, a Harrison. One wiggle told me that this was true class. I fell in love with it immediately, and bought it too.

I have, through various reasons, had more rods pass through my hands than a hundred anglers will see in a lifetime.

As a silly old fart, one thing I can spot, is a good fishing rod.
 
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Bill Eborn

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I'll echo this - a four piece 1.25lb 11ft Avon, please - no quiver tip section required!
 
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I wondered about the Harrison 4 piece but I think its a bit too poky for what I'm after. I could see it working for Barbel and river Carping too but what I'm looking for is a rod primarily for chub doubling up for Barbel on a small river. They average around the four and half pound mark, so I don't think I really need a whopper stopper.

I have been wondering about getting either the Harrison or Greys 1.5lb 3 pce as an alternative but I really wanted an 11ft as it would be a bit easier to manouvre round the tree cover on the small river. Leslie's / Insight use to do a 3 pce 11ft 1.25lb which when I first saw it was priced at around 225 quid which was way out of my league. Then I saw it again at #159 and I started thinking about it although it was about thirty quid too much Then just as I was seriously thinking about taking the plunge it was discontinued.

I really can't believe there isn't a market for a traditional Avon that can be stuck in a car boot for after work sessions and stuff.
 
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