neil mason 2
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Any suggestions on rods suitable for trotting a stick float for barbel and chub?
Rods suitable for trotting for barbel and chubs
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John,
I was hoping you would do an article on the stick float, and it wasn't disapointing.
after you doing the posting the other week, I was on the Dane the other day, where a chap was float fishing. I asked if he would mind if I sat and watched, to which he said he didn't mind at all. He was catching chub, roach, barbel, and dace. There were some beauties amongst them. When he left, he gave me about a pint of caster, but I only had my avon top with me.
I did find a wire stemmed stick float and shotted it with metal putty, onto 8lb line and a 16 hook (a bodge job) but it worked,as I caught 1 chub and 1 barbel plus loads of minnows, and I hope to go this weekend with decent tackle.
Your article is just the prompt I needed.
I hope you will do more, many thanks.
I was hoping you would do an article on the stick float, and it wasn't disapointing.
after you doing the posting the other week, I was on the Dane the other day, where a chap was float fishing. I asked if he would mind if I sat and watched, to which he said he didn't mind at all. He was catching chub, roach, barbel, and dace. There were some beauties amongst them. When he left, he gave me about a pint of caster, but I only had my avon top with me.
I did find a wire stemmed stick float and shotted it with metal putty, onto 8lb line and a 16 hook (a bodge job) but it worked,as I caught 1 chub and 1 barbel plus loads of minnows, and I hope to go this weekend with decent tackle.
Your article is just the prompt I needed.
I hope you will do more, many thanks.
R
Ron Troversial Clay
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One of the best trotting rods for barbel and chub at a reasonable price is probably the Drennan Tench Float.
Graham Whatmore
Senior Member
Neil.
I use a Shimano XXX 13ft match float rod for most of my river float fishing, stick and waggler, even chubbers. This has coped in the past with big chub and small barbel up to about 6lb as well as the smaller fish.
If you want to target bigger barbel or the water is particularly snaggy then you must step up your rod as well as your line. This is not a problem but these more powerful rods don't lend themselves to stick float fishing IMHO. They will, however, be suitable for use with a chubber or avon float and you can also fish bigger baits with this type of rod and float set up. You can inch a chubber through very slowly just like a stick and they are the ideal float for fishing bread flake or meat if you prefer.
Stick floats are brilliant for caster or maggot fishing possibly even flake but they are best fished up to two rod lengths out, after that it starts to get tricky. Properly set up stick floats are shotted up so that only a dimple shows above the surface therefore at distance or in bad light they become very difficult to follow.
So to answer your question about which rod then, if you have a 'good' match rod from 13ft up to 17ft it will cope with barbel up to medium size and lines up to about 4lb. Bigger lines than that are best fished with stepped up rods such as the Drennan or an Avon type rod.
Hope this helps.
I use a Shimano XXX 13ft match float rod for most of my river float fishing, stick and waggler, even chubbers. This has coped in the past with big chub and small barbel up to about 6lb as well as the smaller fish.
If you want to target bigger barbel or the water is particularly snaggy then you must step up your rod as well as your line. This is not a problem but these more powerful rods don't lend themselves to stick float fishing IMHO. They will, however, be suitable for use with a chubber or avon float and you can also fish bigger baits with this type of rod and float set up. You can inch a chubber through very slowly just like a stick and they are the ideal float for fishing bread flake or meat if you prefer.
Stick floats are brilliant for caster or maggot fishing possibly even flake but they are best fished up to two rod lengths out, after that it starts to get tricky. Properly set up stick floats are shotted up so that only a dimple shows above the surface therefore at distance or in bad light they become very difficult to follow.
So to answer your question about which rod then, if you have a 'good' match rod from 13ft up to 17ft it will cope with barbel up to medium size and lines up to about 4lb. Bigger lines than that are best fished with stepped up rods such as the Drennan or an Avon type rod.
Hope this helps.
J
jason fisher
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drennan do a barbel float rod, i know because i've got on.
Sorry, They're banned on the Ribble mate.
J
jason fisher
Guest
that's a shame baz you won't be able to try it then.
I'm getting that rule kicked out mate. In fact consider it kicked out right now.
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Nigel Moors 2
Guest
Nice article John - by far the most enjoyable way of catching fish.
Neil, I've just bought a float rod for barbel fishing, many suggestions received on a different thread. Settled on a Drennan Series 7 power carp float which was less than ?70. Money no object then I'd have had the Drennan Tench that Ron suggests.
Neil, I've just bought a float rod for barbel fishing, many suggestions received on a different thread. Settled on a Drennan Series 7 power carp float which was less than ?70. Money no object then I'd have had the Drennan Tench that Ron suggests.
Graham Whatmore
Senior Member
Baz. Why would a particular rod be banned on the Ribble? Whats the reasoning behind this.
Graham,
Jason is moving to the area from darn sarf.
I was just having a bit of a joke with him.
Jason is moving to the area from darn sarf.
I was just having a bit of a joke with him.
Graham Whatmore
Senior Member
Ah! makes sense now then. Getting old ya! know, you have to make allowances
Having said that though, it might not be a bad idea to ban carp rods of rivers.
(;o
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J
jason fisher
Guest
Having said that though, it might not be a bad idea to ban carp rods of rivers.
now he's trying to stop me piking.
now he's trying to stop me piking.
Have you got a deportation date yet Jason?
J
jason fisher
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grumble grumble, kin, grumble, eck, grumble, estate agents,grumble.
J
John Hepworth
Guest
When I can stand to float fish,(which is not very often these days) I use a Graham Phillips Barbel Trotter, also good rod for free lining. Never feels right float fishing sat down.
J
jason fisher
Guest
that's a new one on me john, is it a custom built one or an old model?
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Nigel Connor(ACA ,SAA)
Guest
Jason, its an old model from what was probably the first range of rods specifcally designed for specialist river anglers. The first rods were made by John Bailey's mate Paul Boote. I have both the Trotter & the Barbel Quiver & both are fine rods to this day, although I always felt he Trotter was a little undergunned for bigger fish in fast flows. I dont know what John thinks on that point.
The rod I use mostly for my chub/barbel trotting these days is the Harrison GTI 15ft.
Have to agree that trotting for barbel is highly effective.I've always done well on the float for them on the Royalty where they seem a little superstitious of a static bait.I used to catch lots on the Swale wading out on the shallow stretches & trotting down past the far bank willows. I think to a large extent its succesful because it doesn't give wary fish any time to inspect a bait.If they want it they have to grab it. Its probably a lot to do with feeding also. Regular loosefeeding in my experience can really get barbel going.
The rod I use mostly for my chub/barbel trotting these days is the Harrison GTI 15ft.
Have to agree that trotting for barbel is highly effective.I've always done well on the float for them on the Royalty where they seem a little superstitious of a static bait.I used to catch lots on the Swale wading out on the shallow stretches & trotting down past the far bank willows. I think to a large extent its succesful because it doesn't give wary fish any time to inspect a bait.If they want it they have to grab it. Its probably a lot to do with feeding also. Regular loosefeeding in my experience can really get barbel going.
Whay b/s line do you use Nigel?
I will be giveing it a go this weekend, probably useing my shimano stradic specialist rod. Any ideas on line to use with it? there are chub and barbel, although I will probably target the chub.
I will be giveing it a go this weekend, probably useing my shimano stradic specialist rod. Any ideas on line to use with it? there are chub and barbel, although I will probably target the chub.