Anti-Angler out the woodwork

Blunderer · Sep 15, 2004

The debate this morning was the current motion to ban hunting. Someone called in to say something like "Fishing is worse than hunting. The quarry is trapped with a hook and tortured until exhausted".
I wanted to scream at my radio..
"YEAH BUT WE DON'T KILL 'EM!!!!!"

Here we go.......there will be more of these.....

But don't worry, they will never win the support of the majority, or the argument, ever......

Ron Troversial Clay · Sep 15, 2004

Be careful what you say Blunderer.

Many of us do kill fish. I am an all round angler and have killed many trout and saltwater fish in my life.

Blunderer · Sep 15, 2004

Fair enough, Ron. I could have worded that better.
You have killed fish.
And you have eaten them.
This clown probably buys cod in butter sauce every Friday.

Wolfman Woody · Sep 15, 2004

Ah, but you see, you don't have to kill cod in butter sauce, do you. It comes conveniently pack in little plastic bags so that's alright.

And you can tickle em out of the freezer compartment in Asda, Tesco, Sansburys ......

Graham Whatmore · Sep 15, 2004

Listened to Nick Ross on five live early this morning. He introduced a woman called Georgie who was a representative of the 'West Kent hunt'. I'll leave it to your imagination what he actually said. The woman Georgie said oh! thank you very
much!

This is true by the way, no spoof.

Baz · Sep 15, 2004

People go on these radio chat phone ins because they are sad ,lonely, and got nothing better to do, except follow the rest of the herd.
Before anyone says it, no I don't think these crettins give us anything to worry about.

magicdog · Sep 16, 2004

I agree Baz - who gives a sh*t what 'Sharon in Godalming' thinks about fishing on BBC Radio smallville at 4:30am anyway?

Not me - they are sad tw*ts and should get a decent hobby like fishing.

Baz · Sep 16, 2004

They are funny and entertaining though mate.
Quite often the radio presenter will say to a person who has phoned in -: The answer to my question is a simple yes or no.
I'ts like trying to get blood out of a stone with some of them.

Baz · Sep 16, 2004

Today's phone in was largely on the hunting ban, and fishing.
Most people that phoned in began with -: It does'nt bother me either way.
Then went on to spout the biggest load of drivell you have ever heard.
Or, I agree with the last caller. When asked to what point they agreed with the last caller, they couldn't remember.

John Jones · Sep 17, 2004

Ive said it before and I'll say it again. Most of the paranoia and hysteria seems to come from anglers themselves.

Politicians are for the most part lying, coniving, toadying little b......s. They are also self serving, and thereby lies our salvation.

They realise that the furore over the hunting ban will be as nothing compared to the amount of unprocessed sewage hitting the fan if ever they tried to ban angling.

As long as we fight our corner whenever some sad old American spinster who's never had a cod in her life ( I did say cod!), comes out of the woodwork and calls for a ban, voting power alone is enough to keep our sport safe for our kids and grandkids. (Anglers, friends, family....ten million votes!)

Politicians would parly with the Devil if it meant keeping their majority, and for this reason alone they will not seriously confront us.

Yes, idiots will snipe at us from time to time but we've got too many valid arguments for them to ever come close to winning.

Just get on and enjoy your fishing.

John Hepworth · Sep 17, 2004

Couldn't have put it better myself, John.
The only real threat to angling is in the minds of those who are always going on about conspiracies, and the very small minority who should never be let loose with a fishing rod in the first place. Stop banging on about 'the enemy', and do as John suggests, enjoy your fishing.

Baz · Sep 17, 2004

Well put John.
On the fox hunting thread, could it be kept to fox hunting ? NO.

Alf James · Sep 18, 2004

I think we're in danger of becoming a little complacent. I also believe angling will not be banned but there's always the danger of unreasonable restrictions being put upon us that could result in fundamental changes to the way in which we persue our sport. I'm thinking about livebaiting, keepnets, high stocking densities in commercial waters and fishing in public places such as parks, towpaths, etc.

Personally, I haven't used a livebait for pike fishing for years but I will argue and defend the right of others to use the method. I believe that any infringement of our existing rights is just a nail in the coffin for angling's long term future.

I don't believe that we should be laughing at those pathetic souls who have nothing better to do than phone into radio stations with anti-angling rants. We need to meet them head on and project a positive image of angling as a worthwhile and interesting pastime with lots of benefits for peeple of all ages, sex and race, otherwise we are increasingly in danger of marginalising ourselves. Our best defence is to get as many people involved in angling and reverse the decline in angling popularity that has taken place during the last 20 years or so.

jason fisher · Sep 18, 2004

i agree with what you're saying alf.though what any sane and sensible person would be doing posting on a fishing website at 4 in the morning i don't know.

Alf James · Sep 18, 2004

Jason, I'd just got back from a long journey from Ireland - fishing holiday - and was just catching up with what's going on. Wasn't tired because I slept most of the way home and left the driving to others.

Baz · Sep 18, 2004

The phone ins I have been listening to are on Greater Manchester Radio.
Yesterday a chap phoned in to speak up for angling. He was bullied and not allowed to have his fair say by the presenter, who openly admits that in his opinion angling is cruel.

Wolfman Woody · Sep 18, 2004

Anyone remember Bernadette Devlin from the 1960s and 70s, Northern Ireland?

She was vehemently anti-blood sports amongst other things and as well as being a staunch republican until she met up with someone who went hare coarsing and guess what? She became entrenching in hare coarsing as a result and quite an expert on it.

Perhaps this is a lesson to all of us, but take one anti-angler fishing and show them what is involved. Maybe to a stillwater where a catch is guaranteed otherwise what would it prove just sitting there? Who knows you may even convert someone else to angling.

John Hepworth · Sep 19, 2004

Bernadette; a very misunderstood young(at the time)lady. At least that's what her mother said`at the time.

Blunderer · Sep 19, 2004

Yes, take an anti fishing but don't take 'em to a bloody commercial fishery, Jesus, they will become anti-angling suicide bombers!

John Hepworth · Sep 20, 2004

Only ever been to one commercial, and that was just to look. It was like visiting the village of the damned, all looked alike, dressed alike, and they all looked like garden gnomes sat by an ornamental pond with a stick in their hand.
If I had stayed there much longer I would have turned into a suicide bomber.

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