Who make the best fixed spool reels?

dezza

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First of all I am not sponsored by any tackle company. Secondly I have fished for nearly 60 years of my life so I just might be qualified to comment on this matter. I have also used fixed spool reels from ancient Intrepids, Felton Crosswinds and Omnias to the the very latest and best available today.

My choice of the best two makers is simple. Number One, without any shadow of doubt, is Shimano. I have used over 20 Shimano made reels in my life and have had no cause to complain about any of them. My Stradics for example have been used to catch several salt water species as well as wind in huge feeders and barbel in the Trent and Severn. They still run as smoothly as the day I bought them.

Number Two is Diawa. They don't have the same range of reels as does Shimano but what they do have are very well made indeed, even some of the budget priced models. I do have a TDR 250B which is probably the best small fixed spool reel ever made, even though it has a front drag. This reel, though expensive, will outlive me by 50 years at least. The gears are like silk and I have used it to catch everything from roach on the Idle to barbel on the Trent.

I often smile when I read of people who stick religiously to their old Mitchells, Altexes, Feltons - ad nauseum. Many of these people are extremely talented anglers, yet my feeling is that they succeed in spite of their reels, not because of them. Were they to chuck their ancient bits of decreptitude in the skip and make the paradigm shift to to 21st century, I think they would be astonished at just how much the fixed spool reel has advanced.

But what do you think?
 
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Well I'm astonished Peter. I thought you would still be using the same Felton Crosswind as your Dad.

And do you still wear shorts on freezing cold days in winter. On some days, I'll bet you have to wear two pairs of shorts!

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At this point in time I think the Diawa 2508TDR , or better 2508X and 3012X are unbeatable.

I have just been looking at the Diawa TD-XD.

No doubt this is the ultimate with a double handle and front drag with a push button spool release!!!!

Diawa have obviously come up with the best small to medium sized FSR in the world. I wonder how Shimano will answer that one.

But at a RRP of £250!!!

Wow!
 

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Hi Ron

"who makes the best fixed spool reels".... it's a little bit ambigious isn't it? Not like you at all :)

"the best..." could mean the best money could buy... or it could mean the best for someone's particular set of circumstances. I have a pair of Okuma Interceptors (the original grey ones) which have become a part of pretty much all my fishing. Believe it or not, I actually prefer them to my most expensive reel, a shimano stradic... here's the backwards bit: when I fish with the Stradic, I'm always a bit concerned that it might get damaged or even dirty - which is ridiculous, given that its purpose is for an outdoor pursuit. However, when I use the Okumas, I really don't care! So I'm more relaxed with them and I can concentrate on what I'm doing a bit better.

I have a similar thing with rods... the rods I end up using mostly are two daiwa budget avons I bought some time back which are completely bullet proof! Whenever I take out the more expensive rods I own, I spend too much time worrying about whether I'm going to damage them.

Yep, stupid I know.
 

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I buy ABU's. They have made some great reels down the years and like Land Rovers most of those in existence are either cherished collectors items or bombproof workhorses. Also like Land Rovers they tend to hold their value better than just about any reel manufacturer you'd care to mention. Just remember to never throw away the box, manual and tools that come with it...

And even the cheapest of the Cardinal range come with an expensive padded reel pouch as standard. I use mine as species tackle boxes, one for roach, one for barbel, one for pike, and so on.

It's only a shame that they don't make centrepins as they would be not only excellent, but cheap.

It's also a shame that they suspended the lifetime guarantee thing in 1975 where you just sent it back to the factory for free repairs once in a while. Then I'd guess it would a bit dicy to offer it nowadays.
 
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The very best reel is the one that you are happiest using and which conforms to ones requirements, I was on the Trent yesterday using my old Mitchell match in conjunction with hemp n tare.Big big tide and a lovely bag of quality redfins.
 

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or even dirty

But the bloody things are supposed to get dirty!!

Personally I'm not happy with an item of tackle that is not covered in solidified slime or the cork handles are not caked in 3 years old red groundbait. Such things are there to give you nostalgic moments when you remember that big catch of bream...

You don't actually clean your tackle, do you?

Seriously, fishing tackle is supposed to look like fishing tackle, not a piece of sterling silver!
 
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Now this is the thing with Mitchell 300s Ron. These reels were designed for anglers like you. Mitchell in their genius 'ran in' the reels to give them a very used feel. The gears were pre-burred at the edges and sand was added to the gears and spindle. This is what gives them their well used and absolutely knackered feel.
 

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I'm currently using Diawas which I switched to about 15 years ago because they gave less line twist than the mid 90s Shimanos and early Okumas. The ones I've got have also got an audible click on the bait runner, something which seems to have disappeared on modern baitrunners.

The reels still work fine, but they are starting to get a bit battered looking (they were only mid priced reels after all) and I expect I'll have to look for some replacements over the next few years.

Whilst I appreciate that some anglers will always buy the best, mid priced reels are more than adequate for most of us. The things to look for are good line lay, a decent anti-twist line roller, no wobblies on the retrieve (ie decent gearing).
 

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Number One, without any shadow of doubt, is Shimano.
Number Two is Diawa. They don't have the same range of reels as does Shimano.
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Hi Ron, on what basis do you deem Shimano reels to be better than Daiwa ones (without any shadow of doubt)? Reliability? Gearing? Technical Specification? Features? Materials? Bench Testing? Laboratory tests and measurement? Do you have any facts or data that supports this to share with us?

Or is it just plain old gut feeling? Or simple fashion? Kinda like, I prefer Take That to Westlife?

Hmmm, do you remember when two reels were put side-by-side at the NEC and customers invited to compare the winding power of each - one company rushed off to find a judge who would grant an immediate injunction as I recall. It wasn't Daiwa...

On what basis do you believe that Daiwa don't have the same range of reels? Local tackle shop, UK trade catalogue, whole of Europe range or worldwide? Do you mean to suit every style of fishing or less actual models within ranges that suit your fishing?

With the sole exception of centrepins I would also defy you to name a style of fishing that Daiwa don't manufacture a reel for, be that from tiny little reels to game reels, carp, coarse and specialist, sea fishing, multipliers, right through to big game and even electric powered reels.

Have Shimano brought out a better reel than the Basia when I wasn't looking? Or the Infinity X BR?

The coarse reel you cite as the best you've ever used, that was a Daiwa, right?

Best finger-dab bail arm reel for trotting? Oh that's right, Shimano don't do one of those...

How about a closed face reel? Oh, Shimano don't do those either.

Not being funny Ron, but they're very bold statements to make if they're not based on any factual evidence.

There were 72 different reel ranges in the UK Daiwa 2010 catalogue of which some were available in as many as 11 different sizes and variations.

Do I need to mention revolutionary features like ABS, Twistbuster, Airbail, CRBB, QD drag, Twitchin' bar, Digigear and Power lever if we're going to discuss technology?

Maybe you should come along to the Daiwa trade show this year and actually have a feel of the reels you are denouncing as inferior. I think you'll be in for a big surprise.
 

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Bob,

We are talking about the leading two top reel manufacturers here and to be honest there isn't much in it. But like I have said, I have had a lot of experience of Shimano products and let's face it, my overall preference is purely personal.

I have also a few Daiwa reels and they are very very good too.

And no, Daiwa reels certainly are NOT inferior.
 

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But the bloody things are supposed to get dirty!!

Personally I'm not happy with an item of tackle that is not covered in solidified slime or the cork handles are not caked in 3 years old red groundbait. Such things are there to give you nostalgic moments when you remember that big catch of bream...
You don't actually clean your tackle, do you?

Seriously, fishing tackle is supposed to look like fishing tackle, not a piece of sterling silver!


A bit like yourself then ................;):):wh
 

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I have the 4000 series mini bait runner from shimano. IMO these are brilliant, a total joy to use.
Please note this is a personal opinion and in no way meant to upset anyone who likes or promotes Diawa products.
 

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Mark,

We all have favourite reels and I have no issues with anyone who has a personal preference for Shimano, Okuma, Browning, Intrepid, Felton, Dragon Carp or any other brand stating so.

What I took exception to was the sweeping statement from Ron, presented to us as a fact, "Number One, without any shadow of doubt, is Shimano. Number Two is Diawa." When he completely contradicts himself by saying the current Daiwa reel he uses as the best he's ever used.

And his bold statement that Daiwa do not have the same range as Shimano is wrong.

Yes, I've enjoyed a long and happy relationship with Daiwa and therefore you may rightly question if my views carry bias. However I prefer to deal in facts and Ron's view was probably correct back in 1970...

The world has moved on since then.
 

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I have a Fox Stratos 1000 reel and in my opinion they are as good as a shimano reel. In fact one shimano bait runner I had the bail arm was faulty and I couldn't get it repaired.
 
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