Labour Gov. Cannot Be Trusted

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Alan Williams

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Lets be under no illusion if Labour Get in again Angling will suffer the fate as Fox hunting, If they allowed a minority group to dictate ploicy on fox hunting, Then whats to stop them being influenced by another minority terrorist animal rights group such as the PETA to get angling banned. I for one will not be voting for Labour this time.
 
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Phil Hackett 2

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Has Tory central office told you and Ron to hit the fishing web sites with the big bad boggyman stories again?
 
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So you think you can trust the tories with anything?
You must have a very short memory!!
 
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What make you think a Tory party cannot change. I seem to remember a Labour party that believed in socialist values, but we have a Labour government that is further right wing than any Conservative government in living history. I do think it's about time people got over the Thatcher days.
If you want to keep your sport vote Conservative.
 
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay

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If we concentrate purely on the future of angling and avoid other issues we come down to one simple fact.

The Tories will be less sympathetic and will give less succour to the antis than both Labour or the Lib Dems.

This I beleive to be true.

And I know quite a few who did remarkably well under Thatcher.
 
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swordsy

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Lets scrub the thatcher years out and dump them in the bin, are we any better off under misters Blaire and Brown's regime? I would say not, the vast ammount of extra tax we pay into the treasury coffers does not equate in any way to an improvement in living standards.......if anything Standards have fallen.

Are the Tories the answer?

God knows!
 
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Wolfman Woody

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Something annoyed me yesterday. Alistair (Two Tone) Darling was on TV trying to explain why GNER (who operate the east coast rail to Scotland) have had to pay ?1,300,000,000 to hold on to their franchise for the next ten years.

The reason he gave was - they are successful and provide a very good service.

That smacks of old labour coming back. Don't be successful, don't get off your backside and make things work, don't make a profit otherwise Labour will want to tax you for it.
 
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Merv Harrison

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Don't put fox hunting and angling in the same 'political party' category.

Fox hunting predominantly conservative voters, no great electoral loss to Labour, a possible gain of votes from the anti-hunt fraternity.

Angling, I would dare to suggest, predominantly working class, if banned, a massive loss, hundreds of thousands votes away from Labour.
 
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Mark Hodson

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Never mind the possible banning of angling just think who is most likley protect the countryside we fish in, the fish we catch from immigrants dinner tables and us from the anti's who are supported by the left wing socialist think tanks and funded by labour supporters. Vote conservative and save our country before its to late.
 
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Thanks to all for the feedback. But remember this, while Angling is without doubt the the largest participent sport in the country, and brings so much pleasure to so many people from different walks of life, Do you really think that Mr Blair cares who we are or what we are about? I really think not.
 
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matthew nightingale 2

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I really believe that Labour banned fox hunting for two reasons: to get their own back for the defeat of the miners and to allow some of the MPs to imagine that they were real socialists. Speaking as an ex-pistol shot don't imagine that any sport is safe. If there are enough votes it we'll be sold down the river without compunction.

Don't think that Martin Salter will do us any good either; look what happened to Kate Hoey when she started to question the Government's attitude to shooting and field sports in general. Given the choice between back bench obscurity and a minor ministerial post I'm sure Mr Salter will do as he's told.

There; makes a change from asking about poles etc..........!
 
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swordsy

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?1.3 billion pounds to keep their franchise...........taxed for being succesful, that is a disgrace!

Lets just promote mediocraty shall we?

Or is it one of labours new agendas? they took competition out of school sport, would they like to take it out of business as well? so that company directors don't feel failures when they belly up because they cannot compete with the rest of the world because they have choked them with tax and strangled them in red tape?
 
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay

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One of the main reasons why I have never been able to support the Labour Party is that they tend to support mediocrity and tax the hell out of the successful.

This is not the way to create wealth - period.

Wealth creation is vital in a modern economy. So is competition.

Where wealth creation and excellence is stifled by over taxation and restriction, the money will never be available to run the essential services such as Police, NHS and others.

Overtax the big earners and they will leave the country and not spend their money here.

I have nothing really against the big earners as long as they spend their wealth in this country. Spreads it all around, doesn't it.
 
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But they don't, as that nice Mr. Heath found out when he discovered the "unacceptable face of capitalism" long before the hideous face of thatcherism made its entrance.
 
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EC

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I would argue we are much better off now, than under the tories for the simple reason, at this point in time, unlike the 80's and early 90's, NONE of my friends or family are out of work!

As for the title thread I would agree to some degree, but it says something that the tories are now reduced to using immigration and abortion to score points before the election!

Why aren't we being told how bad the economy is? Why aren't we being told how bad unemployment is, or education, or the NHS?

Simple, they arent bad! Read a apaper watch the news, there's far worse places to be then GB!

That said I wouldnt trust any of them, labour, tory, sdp, LD, NF, bnp, greens or whoever! Lots of them are on the take, and if they arent, they know people who are and do nothing!

Rant over!
 
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I dont trust any of them. Angling as very little exposure outside its own arena. Nothing positive on the TV or in the papers. We have world champions in various disciplines. people up and down the country doing good work for the enviroment and youngsters.
The politicians will take note of the people who get space in the media and thats not us.
Whats the answer? Wish i knew but we had better start getting good press as the anti's are starting there campain against anglers.
 
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Ian "snotman" Foden

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I agree Bryan.

I don't think Angling should rely on any Political party for support or expect any better support from either Labour or Conservative. The issues over fox hunting with dogs are predominantly separate from Angling. The only aspect related to Angling was that the fox hunting debate has kept the Anti's occupied for a good while, hopefully longer if the CA ties them up in court too.

Angling must become UNITED and STRONG in its voice and arguments, NO MATTER WHO opposes it. If so, can anyone realistically see a Labour or Conservative party banning Angling and alienating possibly up to 3 million Anglers, with a 2 Billion price tag? when it also has a strong voice??

Roll on the Royal Society for the Protection of Fish!! will have to make do with FACT for the time being :0)
 
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Ron
"And I know quite a few who did remarkably well under Thatcher".
And I know over three million who did not, I think a lot of people have short memories; I can not recall our inner cities going up in smoke recently
 
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ED (The ORIGINAL and REAL one)

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The Tory Party today announced that it is changing its emblem to a condom
because it more accurately reflects their political stance.

A condom allows for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of security while you're actually being screwed.
 
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