Cancer research UK

Martin Girdwood · Apr 11, 2005

i was listening to Keith Arthur yesterday morning whilst fishing in a near gale and i could not be sure of the content of of one of the calls - i believe Cancer research UK had refused to take ?30,000 from angling as it could not be seen to accept money from the sport. Can anybody adise if this in fact correct as i would have to re think about the donation i make every month (i do feel aggrieved that if correct the people who have made this decision are not the people who are suffering and who really need the money for this valuable research)

Ron 'The Hat' Clay · Apr 11, 2005

Martin,

This matter does require serious investigation. I have alway thought that cancer research was one of the better charities and have given a fair bit of money to it in the past.

Wolfman Woody · Apr 11, 2005

I'd like to know more about that since I've just switch my direct debit from my old bank to my new one.

si · Apr 11, 2005

Cancer research UK had refused to take from angling as it could not be seen to accept money from the sport.

havent heard that one but i did hear on radio2 that they had returned a ?30,000 donation from the hunting lobby a few weeks ago

Martin Girdwood · Apr 11, 2005

Si
you may have hit the nail on the head, it may well have been the hunting lobby as the amount ?30,000 is the same (it still makes you wonder where they stand with angling) , as I said it was blowing a gale and I could not hear the radio properly. i have emailed Keith Arthur @ talksport for clarification and will post any reply I get.
Thanks
Martin

egghead · Apr 11, 2005

the money was from a game shoot they said they wouldnot accept it as they where against receiving donations from what they termed as blood sports

Graham Whatmore · Apr 11, 2005

It wasn't angling mate it was a shooting club and yes they did refuse to take ?30.000 so Keith Arthur suggested they give it to the Macmillan nurses, and I for one heartily agree with that.

My brother died recently of cancer and instead of flowers the money was donated to the Macmillan nurses trust in Macclesfield, his wife gave them a cheque for ?1000 on Saturday, much more satisfying.

Graham Whatmore · Apr 11, 2005

I believe the "Stoney and friends" fish ins are for the Macmillan nurses as well aren't they?

Cancer research is a fine charity but unfortunately too much of the donations goes towards administration in fact its something like 80% so I've read.

When my wife was being treated for cancer at Cheltenham hospital they had a charity on site for buying specialist equipment and there was a list of all the equipment they had already bought and what they intended buying. We of course donated to that. I believe that was run by the friends of the hospital and therefore nothing was taken out for admin.

Wolfman Woody · Apr 11, 2005

A few years ago when I was a secretary we held some carp matches and the very first one went to the local Scannappeal at the hospital, over ?500. They didn't refuse.

Which was just as well because the year after I became one of their patients.

Nigel Connor(ACA ,SAA) · Apr 11, 2005

Irrespective of whom it was from its absolutely preposterous.The last time I looked shooting was still a legal activity.

Ron 'The Hat' Clay · Apr 11, 2005

Whoever is running the Cancer Rsearch Charity needs sorting out, and sorting out now!

Both angling and shooting are two totally legitimate sports.

Nigel Connor(ACA ,SAA) · Apr 11, 2005

Ron,if correct, its the thin end of the wedge.

Incidents like this show how public opinion can subtley be changed & manipulated by the anti shooting & fishing lobby.

I would not be at all surprised to learn that the charity had been lobbied by the above prior to making the decison.

I would like to see the facts behind this howvever as it appears a little hazy.Can any one shed any more light?

swordsy · Apr 11, 2005

Cancer is a terrible illness that ruins many peoples lives....for a charity to refuse a donation of such an amount is disgraceful.

That ?30,000 could have been well used on research and maybe saved someones life.

Shame on them

The Monk · Apr 11, 2005

I`ve done my bit too for the Macmillan nurses after my last wife died with the terrible illness, I had my head shaved (publically)and raised a few bob, plus I got involved with selling the NFA fish badges which to their credit the NFA organised

Graham Whatmore · Apr 12, 2005

Nigel. I've looked everywhere on the web for something about this to no avail but I can assure you that it is true. I was listening to Keith Arthur at the time when this gun club secretary came on and K.A. was as non-plussed as we are as to why they should be so stupid.

It might make people think more about running charity matches for charities that think you have just crawled out from under a stone. Hospitals around the country nearly all have "friends of the hospital" colectors and are run purely for the benefit of that hospital and to my mind are much more deserving of our hard earned pennies than these holier than thou organisers that earn a living from our charitable contributions.

That sounds harsh but I believe it to be so.

swordsy · Apr 12, 2005

Graham you have hit the nail on the head mate with the point of "professional charity organisers"

A charity is just that, a charity. Not a moral bastion that can dictate to the nation. We all fear cancer And unfortunatly it will affect every single one of us either directly or indirectly, it is not for some holier than thou tofu munching dried up old fart to say that one mans cash is better than another, in the war against cancer we need every weapon avalable.

P.S

Vivisection isnt nice but given a choice of 200,000 beagles or a cure for cancer, give me the cure.

david bruce 1 · Apr 12, 2005

I have (like so many people) been involved in raising monies for a variety of charities. I have learnt, it is well worth looking at the organisation as many charities have extensive premises in very expensive areas of London with large staff numbers all enjoying London rate wages. Result, large overheads and less for the actual charity. And yes, I know they need to lobby parliament, an excuse I have been fobbed off with, but my colleagues do that effectively from Crewe by train so why can't they?
When donating ensure your money get as close to the endpoint as possible and that the organisation is lean. Ask a question and see if you can even get an answer. Many voluntary workers are, unfortunatly ill informed where the majority of the income goes to, or of the activities that go on outside the up front image of the charity. e.g. Famine relief charities involvement in African political matters which may or maynot be what you agree with.

Too many of them seem to be money pits with relativley small beneficial output despite their size and a raft of views and opinions that they have no right to be impose on the Charity are paid (well) to work for.
Next week I'll talk about the Lottery Commission!!!!!! :-(

Graham Whatmore · Apr 12, 2005

Now they are a bunch of wasters, If there was ever a bunch of professional idiots that could waste so much money on people that don't deserve it then I have yet to see them, including the government.

Even worse, they do it our name.

egghead · Apr 12, 2005

My wife is just unbergoing treatment for cancer when i offered to run a charity match and raffle to raise money for his chemo unit the doctor was only to please to accept I am sure if they had ask the guy at the sharp end if he wanted to take it the answer would have been thanks not where as it come from

Jim Gibbinson · Apr 13, 2005

Other cancer charities, which so far have not received a mention here, are the Royal Marsden Cancer Campaign and cancerBACUP. The former, as you would expect, is involved in research and treatment (and is one of the foremost treatment centres in the world); the latter is involved in information and counselling. Both charities do wonderful work.

I'm only guessing, here, but I suspect the high running costs of Cancer Research UK are not so much in administration, but in fund raising (eg their TV advertising campaigns). They would doubtless argue that the net result of this expenditure is increased finds for research.

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