spade end knots
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peter crabtree
AKA Simon, 1953 - 2022 (RIP)
whatever knot it is a drennan hooktier ties......
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC)
Senior Member
I use the spade end knot
Andrew Macfarlane
Well-known member
If you loosen the hooktyer and pull the mainline as most folk do, you'll get pig-tailing. The way to do is to loosen the hooktyer and then take the hook off, with the loop at the bottom of the knot still intact. Pull the loop end until the tag pops out and tighten that. This stops the pig-tailing effect.
Andrew Macfarlane
Well-known member
It'll probably take a couple of goes but you'll get the idea.
I must be lucky i started tying spade ends down to size 26 with ease when i was 13, kept me in good stead for years. I tried hook tyers but it was far too fiddly
All i do is form a loop, place ot on the shank of the hook, then whip down 10 times and putthe tag end throgh the bottom of the loop amd pull the loop tight. Its all down tor practice, but well worth it, try tying bigger hooks first then work down...
All i do is form a loop, place ot on the shank of the hook, then whip down 10 times and putthe tag end throgh the bottom of the loop amd pull the loop tight. Its all down tor practice, but well worth it, try tying bigger hooks first then work down...
Andrew Macfarlane
Well-known member
I can do it too but after trying a mate's hooktyer last year, I thought, this is just easy and much quicker.
It's the same knot anyway.
It's the same knot anyway.
Do a search on the Snell Knot there's an old thread here http://www.fishingmagic.com/forums/general-fishing/118883-tying-spade-end-hooks-hand-2.html
The Snell every time.
I do not think it is a genuine knot as it self strangles rather than a connection secured by a crossover.
It is a far more secure connection than the knot made by the knotting machines, just test them alongside each other to prove the point.
For years back I regularly used to attach 8/0 circles to 100lb fluorocarbon for livebait rigging for Marlin and have even snelled double hook rigs with 500lb mono and a pair of 10/0s for some Blue Marlin lures.
In all cases the eye of the hook is ignored, with the connection being slid along the hook shank prior to final tightening.
Its also the connection of choice for longline crews when crimps are unavailable and they are fishing for their livelihood.
I do not think it is a genuine knot as it self strangles rather than a connection secured by a crossover.
It is a far more secure connection than the knot made by the knotting machines, just test them alongside each other to prove the point.
For years back I regularly used to attach 8/0 circles to 100lb fluorocarbon for livebait rigging for Marlin and have even snelled double hook rigs with 500lb mono and a pair of 10/0s for some Blue Marlin lures.
In all cases the eye of the hook is ignored, with the connection being slid along the hook shank prior to final tightening.
Its also the connection of choice for longline crews when crimps are unavailable and they are fishing for their livelihood.
The bad one
Well-known member
Snell Knot used all my fishing life
Once won a bet with a match guy at work that I could tie a 20s hook by hand faster than he could with the hook tier.
See here for a good animated diagram
Fishing Knots | How to Tie Fishing Knots | Animated Fishing Knots
Once won a bet with a match guy at work that I could tie a 20s hook by hand faster than he could with the hook tier.
See here for a good animated diagram
Fishing Knots | How to Tie Fishing Knots | Animated Fishing Knots
Tee-Cee
Senior Member
The Bad one........Thats a great site-thanks for that.......I shall sit and practice tonight rather than watch tele.....
Have a good one and may all your knots be tight!!
Have a good one and may all your knots be tight!!
Excellent site, thanks.
Tee-Cee
Senior Member
Waggy.....Anglesey hasn't disappeared under the snow then??
...its now snowing again in South Bucks...I also hear the M6 at Wigan was closed last night.................grim for travellers...
....sorry,gone off subject-again!!
...its now snowing again in South Bucks...I also hear the M6 at Wigan was closed last night.................grim for travellers...
....sorry,gone off subject-again!!