BALDERSTONE LOST!!!!

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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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What a disappointment it is to find out that Clitheroe Anglers Association LTD which is a game fishing club, have gone behind another clubs back which is Warrington Anglers, and put a very high bid in for the stretch of the Ribble at Balderstone.
This is one of the prmeium barbel strtches.

What they most probably have done is to start a price war on stretches of the Ribble that every club will now suffer from. You can?t blame the farmers for taking the highest bid, but what you can blame and is to be detested is the way in witch Clitheroe Anglers have gone about this business.

What happened to decorum and gentlemens pacts? It is an unwritten rule amongst angling clubs that this kind of action is just not on. If there had been some kind of disagreement with the farmers, it would be understandable, our lease was up for renewal, and it would have been renewed as usual without any problems, and no decent club would have done what you did.

Cliteroe Anglers Association LTD, You Are A Disgrace.
 
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Morning Baz,

I confess to not knowing a great deal about the Ribble, just a few things I've either read or been told by the "Granite of Manchester".

Isn't a lot of the Ribble under the control of game oriented clubs in the middle and upper reaches?

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Lee.
 
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It?s upsetting but it doesn?t surprise me. Baz as you know I'm a member of WAA, it's a sad day mate I've fished Baldestones for longer than I can remember. (not much over the last few seasons but thats another story)

RIP Barbel Bend. 1980 - 2006

Another Club I?m in has seen the price of two stretches increase by substantial amounts next season. Your going to see more of it mate. One land owner is now keeping a book; he wants to know car registrations, club membership number and also what?s being caught. The land owner says he?s wife feels uneasy about cars coming and going at all hours. Don?t make me laugh, why the hell does his wife want to know what?s being caught? I think over the next few seasons we will lose the stretch.

When land owners learn about how popular their stretch is they start to see pound signs. This is the reason some clubs don't want publicity. But you still get people publicising stretches; some are even taking photographs for publication. When are these selfish people going to release their self interest is doing harm to their clubs and the also the few day ticket stretches that are remaining on the Ribble? I know if I was on the committee of a club and found that certain members where publicising areas and catches against club rules I would do my best to have there membership revoked.
 
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welcome to the real world fella's where pound notes rule.
Remember what happened on the Ouse at Bedford? unfortunatley the better your bit of river the more it will cost, simple modern day econmics. I am not saying it is right or ethical the way it gets done all i am saying is it's the way of the world
 
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Agreed Eric, although WAA don't have a publicity ban mate, I wonder if clubs might start adopting the 'no publicity' rule as a matter of course !

In another club I am a member of, I/we were told in no uncertain terms that if anyone asks you how the fishing is going, you tell them its crap for the very reasons (future rents etc) outlined above!
 
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Eric Hayes

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Eddie I wish the Clubs would impose some sort of a ban on publicity the Ribble is turning into a Circus.

Some things just occurred to me: I was told last month that Warrington have just got a new stretch a few miles from Clitheroe. At about the same time one of the girls I work with who comes from Sabden told me she had seen anglers Brollys on a stretch on her way to work, I thought that strange because I've never heard off or seen anyone course fishing that stretch.

now I'm putting two and two together here but I wonder if the stretch that Warrington have just go was under the control of Clitheroe last season?
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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Eric mate.
I warned against this very thing as much as 3-4 years ago. But as usual I was met with a barrage of excuses, and shouted down by most anglers.
It doen't need an educated guess as to where will be next. There may well be a little parking problem to start with.
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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We haven't got a new stretch of the Ribble Eric.

Yes it is Lee, I'll p.m you something.
 
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Eric Hayes

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Baz we need to get hold of Clitheroe anglers Email address so we can express our disgust at their actions.

The stretch lease was not up for renewal until January, Clitheroe doubled the bid in September. It is absolutely bloody disgusting. How would they like it if the shoe was on the other foot and a club went behind there back and offered the landowner double the lease for a stretch they had the lease on?

I don?t have words for for how I feel about the actions of this so called angling club I?m spitting mad about this.
 
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EC

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Jonny, Graham any chance of combining these 2 threads if it is ok with Baz!
 
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Eric Hayes

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Baz I've just phoned Frank & your right we don't have a new stretch.

Sorry, should have checked before I posted.
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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Clitheroe Angling Association
Brian Jaques
4 Munkroyd Avenue
Barnoldswick
Colne
BB18 5PZ

Tel : 01282 816627
 
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Another nail in the coffin for the Ribble valley, it is becoming a victim of its own success. Dont be surprised if the coarse fishing rights get let out to a syndicate or even an interested specialist society, because it has happened before. Gazumping is getting all to prevalent nowadays, where popular and productive waters are been snatched up by a few greedy and selfish "syndicates". I think a no publicity ban should be enforced on all club waters countrywide, its too easy to trawl the magazines and internet forums to glean out the hotspots around the country and thus leave those areas open to predatory bids such has gone on at the WAA waters. I bet this story doesnt make the angling press.
 
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Baldeston Lost

It seems some readers might be under the impression I am a member of Clitheroe Anglers Ltd. I am not, neither have I ever been a member. Nor do I wish to be a member. Kind regards Martin James
 
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Sadly Clitheroe are not the only offenders in this arena I feel that the main clubs are going to have to get together and use their collective clout to stop this sort of stupidity as these high prices are in the longer term unsustainable and when the half wits that have set this unecessary process in motion have gone we will be left with a long term issue of falsly raised expectations by landowners.
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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Well said Martin.

Could this be a discussion point on your radio show?
I have been asked by some of the lads what day and time you are on air?

Tom.
I have been asking for a no publicity ban for a long time for these very reasons. Or in the very least for anglers to stop giveing so much information away on open forums.
As far as I am concerned, this only goes to prove the point that I have been trying to make for the past 4 years.

The price of short term fame is very costly to the rest of us anglers.
 
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I'm not advocating publicity for the Ribble or anywhere else but how has the publicising of barbel and chub catches on the Ribble attracted a game angling club?

I would have thought a generous population of coarse fish on the stretch would have been more inclined to put them off.

Is there a chance we're blaming publicity for something that is down to simple economics, ie, an unscrupulous richer club offering more money?

Now, if the stretch had been gazumped by a richer coarse fishing club then publicity may well have been part of the root cause. As it is I just don't believe that publicising barbel and chub catches has attracted a game fishing club.
 
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Lee Fletcher 1

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Dear Baz,

Just to confirm I've got your pm but clicked the wrong button in reply recognition!

I'm a bit busy at the moment having my dinner at this infernal machine but will give this some thought and get back to you via pm hopefully this evening.

Paul Boote has been giving warnings about this type of thing in the South admittedly but I reckon his "vision" for the future on some coarse angling rivers might just prove to be reality waiting just around the corner?

Loads of questions to ask you Baz a bit later on when I'm not so busy ok.

Where's granite got too??

Regards,

Lee.
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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I have been told that C.A. are considering opening this stretch for coarse angling. Was this their long term plan in the first place?
Time will tell.

But the main point is that this unsaviouary episode has now opened the flood gates.
 
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Didnt Paul Boote get "guzumped" by the mighty Bill Gates in Argentina? or have i been mis-informed.
 
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