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great piece!
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Agreed.
After opting out of using my photographic qualifications for anything useful I've started taking my camera with me fishing more often and taking landscapes etc... for purely pleasure purposes.
Depends where I'm fishing though as it's quite big and adds weight to my already bulging tackle bag if I take my SLR so usually I end up with my compact digital number.
After opting out of using my photographic qualifications for anything useful I've started taking my camera with me fishing more often and taking landscapes etc... for purely pleasure purposes.
Depends where I'm fishing though as it's quite big and adds weight to my already bulging tackle bag if I take my SLR so usually I end up with my compact digital number.
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A Very Good piece Jeff.
The carp anglers are the worst!
For example look at the Carp Supplement to AT this week. Virtually all the photos are of carp, carp, carp and more bloody carp. They have very little imagination these carp anglers.
Mind you it's the same with the barbel anglers. Barbel, barbel, barbel, barbel and more and more bloody barbel.
It gets tedious doesn't it?
Mind you credit where it is due. The centre pages of the carp suppliment shows quite a scenic shot of an angler in his swim with ducks in the foreground.
The carp anglers are the worst!
For example look at the Carp Supplement to AT this week. Virtually all the photos are of carp, carp, carp and more bloody carp. They have very little imagination these carp anglers.
Mind you it's the same with the barbel anglers. Barbel, barbel, barbel, barbel and more and more bloody barbel.
It gets tedious doesn't it?
Mind you credit where it is due. The centre pages of the carp suppliment shows quite a scenic shot of an angler in his swim with ducks in the foreground.
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BAZ (Angel of the North)
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Don't you think this is more than a little unfair to the carp lads?
These are the kinds of shots that they prefer, I think? Mainly for fish identification purposes.
A picture of a carp angler sat by a lake, or scanning it with a pair of bins with the old five barred gate slightly to the left is something else.
As for landscape painting or pictures yes it is a good article
P.S.
Each County have there own style of gate, so it's probably better to put an extra bar in the painting to throw the lurkers off (o
These are the kinds of shots that they prefer, I think? Mainly for fish identification purposes.
A picture of a carp angler sat by a lake, or scanning it with a pair of bins with the old five barred gate slightly to the left is something else.
As for landscape painting or pictures yes it is a good article
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Each County have there own style of gate, so it's probably better to put an extra bar in the painting to throw the lurkers off (o
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Bob Watson
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Great stuff, some really good tips which I'll put into practise. I've never been really happy with my photos, this'll help no end.
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sash
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Pictures of someone holding a carp (or indeed berbel!) are still preferable to the 'standard' photo of some hemp & casters that seems to accompany every chub/barbel article going but I know where you're coming from. Some of the CAT barbel articles just show one photo after the other of double figure fish. Boring........
Excellent stuff Jeff.
Excellent stuff Jeff.
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food for thought Jeff, very good informative piece, can see where i have been going wrong now!
Sash,CAT barbel articles???
Sash,CAT barbel articles???
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Ok, I remember how I can do it.
Good! even though it's a seascape.
Fine, plenty of foreground material.
Poor, the grasses block you and there's no point of focus.
Illustrates what Graham said about lighting the foreground. Not bad otherwise.
(is this our Steve King do you think?)
Almost perfect. plenty in the foreground and far off. Good positioning of the horizon.
You want to fish this even though some rules are broken. Nice moody shot.
Just soem examples. Hope the links works.
Good! even though it's a seascape.
Fine, plenty of foreground material.
Poor, the grasses block you and there's no point of focus.
Illustrates what Graham said about lighting the foreground. Not bad otherwise.
(is this our Steve King do you think?)
Almost perfect. plenty in the foreground and far off. Good positioning of the horizon.
You want to fish this even though some rules are broken. Nice moody shot.
Just soem examples. Hope the links works.
I am not realy interested in photography or art but I have always found what Jeff calls "the golden mean" a very interesting principal.
For any one who wants to find out more about this and the maths behind it do a google on "the golden section" or "fibonacci numbers"
have a look at these sites..
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/GreekScience/Students/Tim/Golden.html
http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibInArt.html
fascinating stuff.
For any one who wants to find out more about this and the maths behind it do a google on "the golden section" or "fibonacci numbers"
have a look at these sites..
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/GreekScience/Students/Tim/Golden.html
http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fibInArt.html
fascinating stuff.
one for the maths heads, the guy in the first site above states the golden section as:-
A------C---B where CB / AB = AC / AB, or AB^2 = BC x AC
I dont think this is right, I think it should be:-
A------C---B where CB / AC = AC / AB, or AC^2 = BC x AB
Not sure though as a hard day at work has left my brain dead.
A------C---B where CB / AB = AC / AB, or AB^2 = BC x AC
I dont think this is right, I think it should be:-
A------C---B where CB / AC = AC / AB, or AC^2 = BC x AB
Not sure though as a hard day at work has left my brain dead.
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Bob Watson
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Chris Bishop
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What do you use to take your pics with Woody out of interest..?
The rule of thirds/golden section is something you see looking through the viewfinder.
The rule of thirds/golden section is something you see looking through the viewfinder.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)
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One of the nicest photos of fish caught are those laid on the green grass (not an unhooking mat) next to a nice landing net, rod and reel. And in the case of trout, next to some wild heather or spring flowers with the opened fly box, rod handle and landing net.
Such photos are ethically much nicer than the silly shots of the egotistic captor grinning behind the fish.
There is a lovely painting by John Searle taken from a photo on Tony Miles latest issue of "My Way with Chub".
It shouldn't be beyond the skills of the average photographer to produce pictures like this.
This, together with a scenic picture of the water, plus most important - some action shots really set off an article or a chapter in a book.
So chaps might I suggest you become more creative with your angling photography. Forget the trophy shots. They are as boring as hell and we see far too many of them.
Such photos are ethically much nicer than the silly shots of the egotistic captor grinning behind the fish.
There is a lovely painting by John Searle taken from a photo on Tony Miles latest issue of "My Way with Chub".
It shouldn't be beyond the skills of the average photographer to produce pictures like this.
This, together with a scenic picture of the water, plus most important - some action shots really set off an article or a chapter in a book.
So chaps might I suggest you become more creative with your angling photography. Forget the trophy shots. They are as boring as hell and we see far too many of them.
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Do you mean like the ones of Chris and Bob above your photo Ron?
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Fantastic may i say! I really did enjoy your article, and as a very basic digi- camera user i have duly taken note.
I recall a few years ago seeing John Wilson photographing fish, he would carefully lay the fish on wet grass, and frame it with surrounding vegatation and perhaps flowrs if grownig nearby, also usually either his reel, or even float to give and idea of scale.
I particularly liked you views on picture composition and i will enjoy using my new camera to put your ideas into practice! Cheers
I recall a few years ago seeing John Wilson photographing fish, he would carefully lay the fish on wet grass, and frame it with surrounding vegatation and perhaps flowrs if grownig nearby, also usually either his reel, or even float to give and idea of scale.
I particularly liked you views on picture composition and i will enjoy using my new camera to put your ideas into practice! Cheers
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Excellent article, Jeff.
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CAT = Coarse Angling Today
'Trophy' shots can be nice though if taken with a little thought and preferably by someone else who knows what they are doing.
Tangent subject about to follw so apologies Jeff but I thought this may be the ideal thread to ask - Does anyone have much knowlege / experience of underwater photography, particularly regarding equipment?
'Trophy' shots can be nice though if taken with a little thought and preferably by someone else who knows what they are doing.
Tangent subject about to follw so apologies Jeff but I thought this may be the ideal thread to ask - Does anyone have much knowlege / experience of underwater photography, particularly regarding equipment?
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No Jeff
Its not me, one of my namesakes (could be the guy that writes the horror stories!).
Not a bad pic overall as you say though.
Its not me, one of my namesakes (could be the guy that writes the horror stories!).
Not a bad pic overall as you say though.
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From my camera shop days I recall Nikon did a fair range of underwater SLR equipment but this was when their F range were mostly manual still.
Underwater housings are availabe for a fair few cameras nowadays.
I recall Practical Photography magazine did an article on how to take underwater shots with your camera in a plastic bag using an elastic band to hold the bag around the lens!
Never had the nerve to try it though, sounded like a recipe for disaster to me.
Underwater housings are availabe for a fair few cameras nowadays.
I recall Practical Photography magazine did an article on how to take underwater shots with your camera in a plastic bag using an elastic band to hold the bag around the lens!
Never had the nerve to try it though, sounded like a recipe for disaster to me.
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Any good camera shop should be able to provide you with manufacturers literature on underwater equipment. It is quite specialised though so I doubt they would stock much if any at all.
They will order stuff in for you but usually on the understanding you are going to buy it.
Down in London village there was / is an underwater specialist shop on the Embankment near Emabankment tube station. I forget their name now but I used to refer people to them if I couldn't find what they were after.
They will order stuff in for you but usually on the understanding you are going to buy it.
Down in London village there was / is an underwater specialist shop on the Embankment near Emabankment tube station. I forget their name now but I used to refer people to them if I couldn't find what they were after.