Mark Addy England Team Manager and Muppet.

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Phil Hackett Manchester Granitewith Pride

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It's rare I get incensed by these so-called angling gurus, but this Muppet has managed to do it.
In North West Angler, and in a piece on F2 carp this Muppet suggests they should be stocked in the River Ribble.
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?As a fisherman, though, I?m always glade to see more fish go in local waters. I wish they?d stock them in the River Ribble.?

OK Muppet, what don?t you understand about a Grade A upland river?
Do you really have the slightest knowledge about fisheries action plans and riverine species?
Do you even know what a riverine species is?
Have you any idea of the damage river pigs in such numbers would do to the ecology of that river?
The answer to these questions must be NO, because no one with two brain cells to rub together would ever suggest that such a river should be stock with such carp in the fist place.

Just so you get the message loud and clear, carp are alien fish to the British Isles, they are alien to the Ribble and if ever you got your wish, they?d wreak ecological devastation on the ecology of the river.

And before anybody say they?re already in the river, I know but the numbers thankfully are so low they are of no consequence, and they ain?t F2 either.

You are without doubt one of the worst kind of Dangerous Muppets.
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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A typical stupid, selfish, and ignorant matchmans way of thinking.
 
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Danny Lancaster

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I haven't read the article Phil, (in fact, please let me know where I can get this publication, I didn't even know it existed!), but could it have not have been a "tongue in cheek" comment.

Not all matchmen are like that Baz.....in fact you could replace "matchmen" with any kind of angling section in some circumstances, but usually the majority are good chaps/chapesses!
 
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Whoa back there Baz!

The quote, if correctly transcribed, was; "As a fisherman . . . . . " there was no mention of his comment being made from a match angler's point of view, regardless of his position.

I know a lot of top match anglers all of whom would readily condemn such a move.

Not all match anglers are selfish, and none of those of my aquaintance are either stupid nor are they ignorant!
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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Fair enough there was no mention of M. Addy being a match angler apart from being the England Team Manager. No matter if he was speaking with his England hat on or off, it is very short sighted of him to come out with such remarks.
 
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Big Swordsy... Satans little helper:O)

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Mark Addy

Typical of someone who measures the success of everything he does in pounds and ounces irrelevant of the species irrelevant of the consequences.
 
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)

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Absolutely bang on Phil!

Unfortunately many matchmen ARE selfish, ignorant and without any idea of the damage these F2s can cause to a natural waterway.

Such people also condemn the fact that salmon and seatrout, two wholly British species may be on a come back.

The typical attitude amongst many matchmen is reflected in an article in Angling Star some time ago. A well known muddy puddle splodger was ask what his favourite fish was?

"Anything that makes up weight in my keepnet", came the reply. Some people look at fish as snooker players look at balls potted or football players look at goals.

That is the sort of attitude that will get match angling banned, just as it happened in Germany!!
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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Match anglers have long been known to have a different opinion on what species get stocked in which waters than the specimen angler.
As has already been stated it is weights that count with these people, that is why these match type mud puddles have sprung up all over the place. They also seem to have their own set of rules to fish by, so different to everybody else.
 
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Since when have "F2" fish been stocked anywhere? The hijacking of a term used in genetics as a tradename for what are simply mirror carp continues to cause confusion.

Carp would only cause damage to a natural waterway if they were stocked in huge numbers. In most fast rivers there are odd pockets of carp in the quieter backwaters. Slower rivers have a few as well but they have hardly taken over.

I suspect that Mark's comments are tongue in cheek, and more to do with the fact that the dace fishing that we match anglers used to enjoy on rivers like the Ribble (my case the Stour) has been destroyed by the black death.

If he was putting down some bait you certainly fell for it....
 
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Baz, you obviously don't mind exhibiting your ignorance about fishing in general on the web like this but what makes you think you know anything about how matchmen feel about anything.

A lot of specimen anglers of today have dabbled in match fishing to some degree or other in their past life even Richard Walker, the God, fished matches, so please don't group hundreds of thousands of match anglers in the "selfish, stock everything bracket" because that is complete and utter nonsense.
 
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Of course it's not wise to group ALL match anglers together as uncaring plonkers.

Our Graham, Mark, Peter and many others I know are far from uncaring and have all been match anglers in their lives.

Peter Stone was a very effective match angler, and so was Bob Roberts, Jan Porter and a whole host of others I could name who are now specimen or specialist anglers.

When **** Walker fished a match he fished to win make no mistake, and win a few he did.

I sincerely hope that Mark Addy WAS casting bait
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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what makes me think I know anything about how matchmen feel about anything?
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Easy Graham, I have been involved with them for years. In fact you yourself are displaying the arrogant attitude of the match angler that we are talking of. You are also correct in saying that I don't mind exhibiting my ignorance about fishing in general on the website like this. As long as people like yourself want to feed me the information, I don't mind throwing it back at you.

And yes, I have match fished myself, and I didn't like what I saw.
 
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)

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Baz,

Why not start a new thread on the subject of what is wrong with match angling?

And list all the things you don't like about it.
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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A good idea Ron. If nothing else it will give fools like G.W. something to chunner on about.

I'll bet that there are not that many clubs about who do not play the match angler against the specimen/pleasure angler when it suits them to swing a vote one way or the other.
Most match anglers are so full of their own infinitesimal importance that they can't see the wood for the trees.
 
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Ok, so who was the wally that stocked the Ribble with Barbel?

Or is it another of those, "Dunno, they must have entered it from the Nene."
 
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA-Life Member)

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Barbel were stocked into the Ribble illegally Baz.
 
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Big Swordsy... Satans little helper:O)

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Along with Zander into the Trent and many others

also there is the problem with Wells catfish and the amazing walking carp that can jump fences, unlock canal locks, use four wheel drive off road vehicles and take a leisurly stroll to another water when it gets bored of getting caught by the same old circus

They also probably speak two languags as most of them have french accents
 
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