cheers jon. saw eel fisherman pull out thirty when i was a kid where seven meets avon. maybe it was him? i think it was seeing that beast that turned me into a pikey.after years of trying, still never caught anything like that. made mistake of taking female friend fishing. within 3 weeks she had numerous pike under her belt, and really fat 20. also took last girlfriend barbel fishing. She caught 6lb fish in 5 secs, then retired from the sport. She then took the piss out of me for the next 51/2 hrs until I got one. Is it just me, or does everyone get outfished by ladies?