Wintercarping... Day or night?

Lazinko · Apr 11, 2006

Hi, i'm up to go for some carping now. In sweden we have about 0-12 celsius during 24 hours... 0-5 at night and 5-12 at day.

I belive that is like a mild UK winter? Am i right? Now i need some tips when i shall get out angling, shall i make a overnight session or is it just meaningless fishing at night?

When would you go?

Peter Jacobs · Apr 11, 2006

Hei pa deg Dan,

When I fished the southern lakes in Sweden (Skane region) I found them to be none too productive at night time, especially at this time of the year. This was probably due to the longer and colder winters over there and the fact that some of those lakes were very deep too. Mind you this was during the period from 1991 until 1998.

My best catches were from late evening and early morning sessions. As April gets into May then I found that free lined baits around the shallower margins were almost always successful, and those baits were mainly bread, maggot and maize.

Hope this helps.

Skitt fiske!

Lazinko · Apr 11, 2006

Hahaha hej p? dig Peter Jacobs.

I live in the Sk?ne region. And i will fish in a club-lake which contain 40lbs, I belive it's one of the the most difficult carpfishinglake in sweden. I also find it almost none productive at night but sometimes it does bang on (summertime). But to fish the late evening and the early morning i need to make a overnight session.
I fish in 1,5 to 2 meters depth. I think i will concentrate my fishing to the sunny spots.

Peter Jacobs · Apr 11, 2006

Hei Dan,

Summertime is totally different to Springtime from my experiences.

If I were to fish there now then I would certainly make it an overnight session, but only fish until an hour after dark. Then make a meal and get my head down until an hour or two before dawn and then start again.

I found that baiting up just before I packed up for the night was very productive too.

Good luck.

Dan Eriksson · Apr 11, 2006

Where in sweden did you live? If you lived here?
Nice country, eh?

I will fish some winter-baits and keep the baiting up as small as possible. Like two hands over the fishingspot and the rest in PVA-bags. (I can use a boat baiting up and dropping the baits.)
Think i will go for two hands when i start fishing and then catapult some baits out before i go to sleep.
Let's hope it will produce any catches

Thanks for the wish of good luck.

Peter Jacobs · Apr 11, 2006

Dan,

I actually lived in Oslo, Norway for the best part of 15 years.

I fished a lot in Skane including the Scandinavian Masters held in Malmo.

I always enjoyed the matches in Sweden as well as my pleasure trips down there. Rivers like the Svartorm and the Klarelva were my regular haunts in those days.

As you know there were few King Carp in Norway during the early 90's. We did stock, with permission, 3 lakes in the Asker/Oslo region but one of the lakes suffered badly and all the Carp died off. The other 2 lakes have done quite well and there are now mid 20's being caught regularly.

Dan Eriksson · Apr 12, 2006

I don't know if i shall go for natural baits like maize or if i shall use Boilies/Pop-ups. I'm also thinking of mixing, like a half popup, and two corns. Or using worms...

Frothey · Apr 12, 2006

is maize a natural bait? how much maize naturally gets into the lake?

cracking bait though!

Peter Jacobs · Apr 12, 2006

"cracking bait though!"

It certainly is in Scandinavia, most of my biggest fish all fell to a maize bait.

The problem used to be in both Sweden and Norway Dave that to get boilies meant importing from the UK, remembering this was during the 90's.

These days there are a couple of Swedish importers and retail outlets so 'modern' baits are far more easily obtainable.

I think that Dan was refering to maize as being 'natural' inasmuch as it is an old established bait in Scandinavia whereas boilies are relatively 'new'

One of my most enjoyable days fishing in Norway was actually on a lake to the east of Oslo, I fished bread flake on this almost unfished venue and took a net of Crucians that were truly amazing in both numbers and average weight.

Days like that were, and to a great extent still are, possible in both Sweden and Norway. The only problem being that to get there and stay there is still very expensive, and yet well worth the investment.

Dan Eriksson · Apr 12, 2006

Now we got about 3 retailers selling fresh boilies like Nash, Pro Logic (we had Danish Delight before that), Solar, Energy Baits(swedish), Mainline and a bit of the Dynamite Bait serie...

I belive it is just 2 or 3lakes in sweden where you can say that boilies is dominating. And yes, the corn/maize is still one of the hottest baits. Don't you use it in UK?

Frothey · Apr 12, 2006

danish delight gets some good reviews over here, there is an importer...

Peter Jacobs · Apr 13, 2006

What I found to be quite amazing in both Sweden and Norway was that where coarse fishing was concerned it was relatively very 'new' to anglers, most of whom were/are game or sea anglers.

Back in the late 80's and early 90's you could have a great days fishing on the lakes and rivers with nothing more than a few cans of corn and a large loaf of bread. Tackle was anything from an Avon or a Carp rod, no bolt rigs or bivvys or long stays required.

By about 1993 the (still relatively) few coarse anglers had got into the English mode of fishing and bivvys, boilies and bolt rigs were 'par for the course' and the strange thing was that you didn't actually NEED THEM! You could (and still can) catch decent Carp on bread and corn.

It was truly amazing to see the 'birth' of these methods and styles of fishing based on nothing but the power of advertising.

Amazing, and yet at the same time somehow . . . . . . . sad.

Dan Eriksson · Apr 13, 2006

Yep kind of sad. I like the "easy" way the most. When you take a specialist/barbel rod and go out with a tin of corn/worm and some groundbait and fish carp/tench with quiver. That's beautiful

But at the same time the UK-carpfishing is fun on the hard waters where it is very hard to get a bait "quiver style"

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