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The police caught 4 albanians with frogsuits and harpoon guns on Friday Lake in the Lea Valley national park and they let them go because they said they were collecting mussels.

And they wonder why the genral public think the law is a ass.


It seems i have also been breaking the law as it states.

Anglers who catch carp must throw them back by law.

It seems i have been wrong by placing them back gentally and holding them till they recover before realising them.
 
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Good lord. And did none of the officers think to enquire as to just how it is that one uses a harpoon gun to collect Mussels ? let alone the fact that it is an offence to take native swan mussels from the water in any event ?

What can one say...
 
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Should have let the local Chavs set their Staffys on them.
 
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Using a harpoon gun to 'collect' mussels is much the same as using a 12 gauge shotgun to spread the butter over one's toast!

Why should we tremble when the long arm of the law is there to protect us!

Jeezus H Kerist!
 
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This is the Sun's version of what happened, and here was me thinking you had to be educated to be in the police force and possess a modicum of common sense. Third world country? You had better believe it.

Perhaps it might have been better if some enterprising local had shot them thinking they were tigers escaped from a zoo.
 
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?8,000 for a 40 lb fish ? Is that seriously the case ??? If so then (a) I am staggered, I had no idea they were worth so much and (b) just how much damage for the future has the bl**dy Sun done by publicising that figure ?, whether true or untrue matters not.

Every spear wielding idiot, Albanian to Zog + our own home grown Chavs are now put on notice of the money to be made out of large Carp. The temptation being to fish them out before finding a buyer, the damage done.

This seriously raises the already unacceptable danger level facing our fish stocks IMHO.
 
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Its always been a problem Evan. Its not unheard of for a angler to catch a large carp and transfer it to another water. Therby making that water more lucrative. With regards to the price i think ?8000 would be quite reasonable if you could get one. You would proberbly have to buy a package including the large fish.
 
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Why were they also not done for carrying a dangeous weapon. I am sure is i walked around the park with a knife i would have been done.
 
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I knew they were worth a bob or two - our club's Bailiff has constant fears about someone pinching some of our specimen carp, especially after the lock leading to our waters was found broken open one night last year (none thought to be pinched in the end, thank heaven, new lock speedily in place) but I had no idea they were worth that much.

My biggest worry is that the enormous "headline figure" will lead to fish being removed from waters on spec, in the assumption that they can be sold on, only for the brain dead perpetrators to find that it ain't that easy or possible to fence a Carp without EA papers or to find the sort of very highly specialist restaurant with a clientele willing and able to pay that much for such a fish. Leading in turn to large numbers of fish being abandoned at the roadside etc. to die. Awful thought.
 
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Come on lads, keep up for gawd's sake, carp theft was prevalent long before these East Europeans started killing them for food. It started in the UK as a good earner to enhance a particular fishery and then the crooks realised that French carp grow even bigger so they started smuggling them into the country, along with their diseases. Still do I would guess.

Its not all that long ago that a 'forty' was considered almost impossible apart from Clarissa but they are caught in various venues these days, do you think there might be a connection there somewhere :eek:}
 
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Bad reporting from the Sun

Even worse behaviour from the police

deportation notices should have been served
 
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Oi Mr Connor! What you got against Saffys? Good bailiff dog, particularly when like mine its face has character - no eyebrows, lashes and bald patches on his growls and head, which make him look like a well worn warrior of many battles.

In my dogs case he has skin complaint, which cause his fur to drop out every time it flares up.

I ask for their card, they take one look at the evil faced black dog looking at them and start rooting in their bag pronto.
One chavvy said to me, ?He?s been in some battles hasn?t he!? Yep he likes a fight about twice a week with other dogs, never loses either! And if he can get it a chase with a burglar or scrotty car thieves.
Truth is he?s dead placid with other dogs, never fights, not to sure how he?d react with the other two though :0)
 
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I wonder how many carp end up in the london fish market? plenty i wouldn't wonder. And you wouldn't know you were eating it unless it had a hook in its mouth.
 
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Whilst not defending he actions of the Police, what people here dont seem to ralise is that the decision to prosecute now lies with the Crown Prosecution Service, not Police Officers, the Police quite correctly arrested the Albanian Divers, if the CPS chose not to prosecute they must have had their (albeit misguided) reasons...I understand that CPS dont prosecute unless they have a realistic chance of conviction, circumstances, witnesses, evidence all play their part..I believe that the Albanians should have been prosecuted, as does everybody else on this thread,but what you want and what you get in UK in 2006 are two totally different things. Lets not forget that the fishery management could take the Albanians to Court under Civil Law, the burden of Proof seems considerably less in Civil Court,and the case would be heard either by a Stipendary Magistrate, or a Judge, either who may have more sympathy for the Prosecution case, based again on evidence, witnesses etc....
On the other hand, a good Staffy would circumvent all the above with a bit of instant justice, problem then is that the Albanians report the matter to the Police, and the Staffy owner gets done....you cant win in the UK these days.
 
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