Trotting rod

Anybody recommend a decent trotting rod for roach and chub. At the moment I have an old match rod(dont know or remember the make) and my trusty John Wilson avon at 13ft.
I cant pay silly money say upto £60.

What's wrong with/do you actually dislike about the two you've got?

hi,
unless you want a longer rod for better control, you are ok with the old match rod, its still a float rod at the end of the day!!

mark

Assuming you just want a new rod for whatever reason (I use from solid can to split/built cane to hollow glass to modern carbons. I would suggest a J. W. Young 13' Trotter like this one I have one and I love it.

Brand New J W Young 13ft Trotter Rod 3PC In Hard Case | eBay

Aye, the J W Young is a good trotter for the money.

The Pirate.

mark brailsford 2 said:

hi,
unless you want a longer rod for better control, you are ok with the old match rod, its still a float rod at the end of the day!!

mark

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Thanks for that Mark you are right I will use the rod I have got and see how it goes

Watatoad....In the spec for the Youngs rod (under'Type') it says 'Carp' ??

I'm assuming though that this rod is suitable for the roach/chub fishing mentioned by Beaker rather than for carp fishing? I cannot think of many places where trotting for carp is on the cards!!

Anyway I thought I would ask as I might go for one myself-looks a good price for a Youngs rod- but would welcome your comments before I do so....

Thanks!

Sorry I am either blind or missing Carp reference's on the trotter today.

J W Youngs Trotter

That is from J, W, Youngs home site.

I have all the J. W. Young rods and almost all the reels they do and from personal experience (and yes I paid a lot more for mine before they became so discounted) they are excellent although nothing like as light as the Drennan's or ABU's I have. My friend Clive (aka Crucian Clive) has a very bad back and shoulder and prefers the Drennan's, I however prefer the Youngs and shortly I will be posting a review of all the Youngs rods and most of their reels on my website - for any who have not visited it I do not sell anything - its just for me to post reviews and maybe a a bit on bait and soon a few angling tales...hehehe

The trotter for me is an excellent rod but I still regularly use both cane and some old ABU hollowglass rods from the 1960's and 1970's as I find the action quicker on the strike than my more modern carbons and I get a faster and longer pick up when trotting or Dace bashing.

With my 13' Trotter I have had Carp (river Carp that is) on a waggler at about 50+ yards which was only a small one but I landed it (very low doubles) I have even used it for Tench when float legering just for fun. However for Chub and Roach a most excellent rod and even dace at a distance although where I chase Dace is only between 1' and 2' deep (30cms and 600cms) over a small gravel bed. I like to test my rods very hard. I must add I was not fishing for Carp I was after Chub.

Disadvantage of Young's rod's they are not the lightest but the action is excellent and I feel confident when using them, Ronnie has even used his trotter for light Barbel searching and has had some quite respectable Barbel on it (Ronnie always was more than a little more crazy than I am).

Especially so as just after I bought it a fellow angler posted on a forum that the handle breaks in half without warning all of my mates have used all of the Young's rod range and thoroughly liked them enough to buy themselves Young's rods, except Clive who prefers a much lighter rod's (Drennan's Ultralight 14' match pro being his favourite rod for the Suffolk, Cambridge, Essex and Norfolk Rivers), although he has bought himself both their travel rods...hehehe The Young's traveling rods are the best traveling rods I have ever used with no stops or hang-ups and as perfect a curve as you can find and certainly equal to the curve on a on a three piece.

At the price you can get them for on the net I don't see how you can go wrong. Plus they come in a great case although if I am taking more than one rod, I slip the rods into lightweight clear plastic tubes, though that is just me and my weight moving restrictions. The rods are as at home with fixed spool reels as they are centrepins. I can thoroughly and with confidence recommend the J.W.Young's Trotter and If anyone lives near enough me I am happy to go off for an afternoon or morning or evening with you and you can try any of them. I will even do that if you are visiting the area But I cannot fish for over 6 hours at a session without a break.

Thanks for that wata......whew!!

Tee-Cee said:

Thanks for that wata......whew!!

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Hehehe...well I was asked and I like to give a proper and reasonable comprehensive answer to the best of my ability...hehehe

A little bit about the youngs rods.
They are not made by youngs as some people think but are made under licence, the reason they did not sell many at the full price is because folk that looked at them decided that they were not worth that sort of money, (tackle dealers words not mine) then all of a sudden they appeared all over the place at silly prices, and guess what they still are not selling! Yes, some folk will buy them because they love a bargain, but others will wonder why they have been discounted by so much and leave well alone. I was shown one of these rods (by the dealer) and IMHO they don't look that bad, but no, they are not worth the full RRP!
One thing that gets me is how companies try to sell rods as trotters, as I said, at the end of the day its just a float rod, unless that is you are one of the die-hard guys that likes to fish stick floats with a spliced tip, no there's an art!

mark

What mark brailsford 2 appears to overlook is with modern rods names of rods are just that if I buy say a Shimano Beastmaster it will not make me a master of beasts nor even a controller of pussy cats. Just look at the many Barbel rods, Tench or Bream rods with whatever name. Pedantic I am true but as on another forum just last night an American was also being very smart and trying to explain things to someone sadly their attempt to be smart was marred by a certain lack of knowledge.

Perhaps I am being a little sensitive but rather than having a dig at a rod manufacturer who has solely designed a rod, which incidentally is a very fine rod as are the other rods produced under their name. Perhaps mark brailsford 2 would like to educate us all, how many rod manufacturers actually produce their own rods?

At this moment in time I own 116 fishing rods of which most are of very recent (within the last three years) manufacturer and just a few that have been manufactured since 1950 including ones I have made myself no I did not form my own hollow fibreglass blanks nor did I grow the cane for my solid and built cane rods no sadly not even the few carbon rods I have made did I produce the blanks, although I did make my own split/built cane rods from original canes. The blanks for my Hardy rods are not made by Hardy but they are very good rods.

All that sounds like me being a flash b**tard yet a quick trip to my website and you will find I am singing the virtues of a so called match rod costing £10 and leger rod which I regularly use which costs £16.99 both of which I use regularly you will also see me pointing out and praising several rods costing under £25.00 and some of which come with a three year guarantee although I doubt very much that anyone will have to make a claim.

Perhaps I am a tackle tart if so who really cares I fish ultra light because I cannot carry much, I have not even fished a match for ages, once upon a time you would have seldom come across me fishing with less than five rods in my rod bag unless I was specimen hunting.

Sure over the last 57/58 years I have fished with countless rods manufactured by many many manufacturers and reels the same but unless I am actually writing a report on a rod you will not find me knocking a manufacturer very often. Why simply because we are all individuals with individual tastes and preferences, as my grandmother would have said what is meat for one is poison for another. Therefore what suits me and my style of fishing may well not suit you, my opinions and any advice I give are just that my opinions and the advice which suits my styles of fishing, if perchance that which is mine, from me based on my personal experiences suits you and your style and tastes great but if not sorry I cant help although I will try.

I personally like ABU rods and in the late 1960's and 1970's you would have seldom seen me fishing with rods other than ABU and Bruce and Walker hand built rods. Yet during that time I fished with rods from every manufacturer available in England, I just stayed with the rods that suited me and my style of fishing, just as all of you do. However the ABU rods of the late 1980's and the 1990's I thought were a load of c**p. Yet today you can find me using ABU transmitter match pro's, Enticers and anything from their Coarse fishing Suveran range. Sure over the years I have had some specialist rods both made for me and self built some have been very good others just mediocre.

I think most anglers know than the majority of fishing rods are manufactured in China from blanks made somewhere else in China we are not all fools. Sure crazy and fanatical some of us are but idiots are in reality few and far between. We are looked upon by some as weird and/or cruel but we are just a large group of people who happen to like to sit near water and maybe just maybe catch a few fish. We are individuals, with individual tastes, with individual preferences, with individual styles, with very individual experiences, we are anglers.

Mark, J W Young don't often put their name to something that turns out to be an absolute lemon.

Heavily discounted tackle doesn't always mean sh!t tackle, there are some real bargains out there, just as there are some real rip offs as well.

I won't pay full RRP for many things and most of my rods were aquired heavily discounted, none of them sh!t by any means.

For example, in the last year, 13ft Greys G Tec float rod, brand new £60.00, bargain. Pair of 11ft Shakespeare Mach 3 XT Pellet Waggler rods, brand new £55.00 each, bargain, 15ft Greys Prodigy VX float rod, brand new £90.00, bargain. Pair of 11.5ft Shakespeare Mach 3 XT feeder rods, brand new £75.00 each, bargain.

The list goes on.........

The Pirate.

by ek, some folks do get the huff on about little things don't they...not you mr pirate!!

I think Mr Pirate has far too much money-either that or he has six arms!

Isn't it true that something is only a bargain if you needed it in the first place otherwise its a waste of money...................

Anyway, when your skint pirate let me know and I'll take the surplus rods off you......cheap like! Hehehehehe (copied from the 'toad')

Add a sunday smilie thing here- no, lets go mad and have two!!!

(I bet that Mark chap wishes he'd never opened his gob.......(Funnily enough I like his stuff..)

watatoad said:

At this moment in time I own 116 fishing rods of which most are of very recent (within the last three years) manufacturer and just a few that have been manufactured since 1950 including ones I have made myself no I did not form my own hollow fibreglass blanks nor did I grow the cane for my solid and built cane rods no sadly not even the few carbon rods I have made did I produce the blanks, although I did make my own split/built cane rods from original canes. The blanks for my Hardy rods are not made by Hardy but they are very good rods.

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Thanks Watatoad! I've just shown the above to the Mrs to prove that my not inconsiderable rod collection is perfectly reasonable.

Sean Meeghan said:

Thanks Watatoad! I've just shown the above to the Mrs to prove that my not inconsiderable rod collection is perfectly reasonable.

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Lol, me too !

I told her 45 rods was nothing to alot of other enthusiasts - nutters . I'm gonna get shut of a lot of them as it's just hoarding really...that goes for reels n'all.

Tee-Cee said:

I think Mr Pirate has far too much money-either that or he has six arms!

Isn't it true that something is only a bargain if you needed it in the first place otherwise its a waste of money...................

Anyway, when your skint pirate let me know and I'll take the surplus rods off you......cheap like! Hehehehehe (copied from the 'toad')

Add a sunday smilie thing here- no, lets go mad and have two!!!

(I bet that Mark chap wishes he'd never opened his gob.......(Funnily enough I like his stuff..)

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Don't worry mate, I need and use them alright, when am feeder fishing I like to have a few rods set up with different feeders/rigs.

When am on the Pellet Waggler, I like one set up with a loaded waggler and one unloaded.

On a day where I can fish both the feeder and pellet waggler, I'll have two of each set up, each rod with one of my four cherished and much loved Baitrunner 5010s.

When trotting I have four rods set up, 13ft, 14ft, 15ft and 16ft and am considering another for my newly aquired fifth pin.

Too much money? Nah, am flamin' skint me old China, can't even afford bait.

The Pirate.

I have already reduced my rods and reels in the last three years and will be doing it again quite soon. Over the years you can often pick up fishing tackle from anglers giving up or sadly no longer being with us at the riverbank.

All you need is a bit of squirrel in you or a touch of a magpie hoarder...hehehe

Keeps everyone indoors happy when they see you doing a good bit of clutter clearing.

"When trotting I have four rods set up, 13ft, 14ft, 15ft and 16ft and am considering another for my newly aquired fifth pin."

Wonderful, until you try to move...what visions that conjures up ... power barrows, yaks, lamas, native bearers, ghillies, project managers, underwriters ... all following like Rabbit's Friends and Relations every time the mighty Nimrod tries another spot!

I always seem to pick the wrong pitch and end up fishing four different methods, with four different set-ups, trying to catch fish that are somewhere else. One day I'll learn.