What is this?

Shine · Feb 24, 2007

Is it a fish?

Malc Bason · Feb 24, 2007

Nah, its a rowing boat!

Luke Allsop · Aug 27, 2008

It's a species of sunfish, I'll get back to you on this one.

mike gibson 2 · Aug 28, 2008

I KNOW THIS AS A PUMPKIN SEED FISH. I FIRST CAUGHT ONE FISHING A LAKE IN THE BORDEAUX AREA. THEY GROW QUITE LARGE AND EVEN THE SMALLER ONES HAVE TEETH CAPABLE OF BITING THROUGH MONOLINES

I THINK THEY ARE ALSO PREVALENT IN THE WARMER AREAS OF AMERICA

pcpaulh · Aug 28, 2008

Theres a lake stuffed full of them in a local commercial in Sussex. As said, I think they're pumpkin seed fish.

Luke Allsop · Aug 28, 2008

It is indeed a pumpkinseed fish, Lepomis gibbosus, they're from the same family as sunfish. The natural range of freshwater sunfish is canada, the US and mexico.

mike gibson 2 · Aug 28, 2008

Luke A As my nickname 'GIBBO' quite a coincidence!!

Pip Walters · Oct 27, 2008

<blockquote class=quoteheader>Luke Allsop wrote (see)</blockquote><blockquote class=quote>It is indeed a pumpkinseed fish, Lepomis gibbosus, they're from the same family as sunfish. The natural range of freshwater sunfish is canada, the US and mexico.</blockquote>
This fish is not a pumpkinseed sunfish. Pumpkins have less well-pronounced stripes, more spots, rounded dorsal and anal fins, a more elongate body and an eyespot on the gill. This looks to me like a severum cichlid (Heros severum) and will not live the winter in this country. Google the two fish and compare.

Luke Allsop · Oct 28, 2008

It's not a Severum, I've kept these fish and this looks nothing like it. The nose is wrong and very few specimens have well defined dorsal rays and bars on their bodies.

This is severum, Cichlasoma severum.

Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC) · Oct 28, 2008

Well it doesn't look like a pumpinseed fish. The fins are nothing like.

Here's a green severum. looks familiar.

Pip Walters · Oct 28, 2008

This is also a severum, so you tell me? There are no eyespots on the fins of this one, unlike those in your pic. Colours are going to be variable dependent on temperature and stress levels, not to mention ater chemistry in an English waterway.

I will investigate more, but it sure is no pumpkinseed !

Pip Walters · Oct 28, 2008

You only have to look at severums in google images to see how variable they are. I am convinced that this is a severum (Heros severum). Very few of googles images show eyespots on the dorsal and anal fins either.

Mark Hewitt · Oct 28, 2008

Crucian?

Pip Walters · Oct 28, 2008

Hahahahaha, hi Mark. What do you reckon mr Whimple (I think that name suits him better) would make of it?

CatmanDan (emmo Jnr) · Oct 28, 2008

Is this what the american fisherman refer to as a "crappy"of course this isnt the real nameand yes I`m talking about the pic at the top

CatmanDan (emmo Jnr) · Oct 28, 2008

nope its not a crappy. I take it the fish wasnt caught in british waters or was it?

CatmanDan (emmo Jnr) · Oct 28, 2008

The gill plates are different between the pic at the top and pumkinseed. I did think it was a blue gill but the gill plates are different.

Pip Walters · Oct 28, 2008

No Catman, the crappie is a type of 'bass' or sunfish. It isn't a cichlid. The yanks lure fish for various types of bass and I think they call the crappie 'calico bass'. The only relationship between cichlids and crappies is that they are both Perciformes - the Order of fish to which things like our perch, and both fresh water and sat water bass belong.

CatmanDan (emmo Jnr) · Oct 28, 2008

I do know thats why I corrected myself

GreyFox · Oct 28, 2008

It's either an 18lb barbel or a 9lb chub judging by some of the posts made on this forum in the past!

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