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im looking for a set of rods for my kids, but im not sure what type.
im not after makes just guideance with length/ test cure/ match,carp,float etc.

the first is for a 12 year old, average build,
the second for a 8 year old, small for his age, struggles with holding 11 and 12ft rods,
the last is for a 5 year old, again struggles with the longer rods.

the youngest has a whip, but finds it
boring, he much preferes having a "real rod" as he put it.

they all do a mixture of float and ledgering and fish for everything rather then 1 species. mainly still waters, although there is a local canal we want to try.

i keep thinking of getting them a match rod each, but will they cope with floats and ledgering?

can i get match rods that are around 8ft?(the middle one has an 8ft peir rod that he can cast and cope with easily)

will a match rod cope with double figure carp as well as the smaller species?

any ideas?
 
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Alan my advice is to go for a budget 12ft match/float rod. Nowadays they are light enough for youngsters to use and will do most of the jobs you ask!

Some I think are still built with a screw in attachment in the end eye so that screw in quiver tips can be used.

However the budget priced gear is not that expensive, so you could purchase a separate quiver tip for under ?30 if you wanted. I picked one up off ebay for ?20 new, so you wont be spending out too much!

Drop me an email if you need any more info.
 
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alright mate
when i first started fishing at 10 (about 9 years) i had one of those 6ft rods that argos sell.For the price about 15 quid with a reel they are top value i managed to catch a 14lb carp on one.
I personally think match rods over 14` aren`t capable of playing a good double as i have seen carp snap match rods.
But i if you know what doing a 12` rod is capable if the venue is not to snaggy.
 
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Cheers EC, i was planning on budget stuff any way. the kids wont get the use to justify spending to much.

the only problem i can see is the 2 younger ones cant cast a 12ft rod, they can both cast an 8ft one with out a problem(just over 50meters for the 8 year old, not that far but on a cheap peir rod its pretty good)
at the moment im casting for them, but as is usual they want to do it themselves.

can you get smaller match rods?
 
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BAZ (Angel of the North)

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Not too sure about 8' rods Alan. Kids would have a tendency to lean out further when casting. Not a very good thing to do especially on the canal mate.
 
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I'd still go for the 12 footer mate, I've got a masterline 12ft budget job here and its spot on, 10mins of practice they'll be ok.
 
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Ben ive looked at the argos ones, but im not sure they would cope. the puddle(cant call it a lake its not big enough) we fish dosnt have big carp, the biggest is supposed to be around 15lb, but they are like steam trains.
 
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good point Baz, i hadnt thought of that, where i normally take the is only about 12 inches deep around the margins and about 3ft in the middle, so no major worries if they end up going for a swim.

12ft match rods it is then. thanks all.
 
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You'll get something plenty decent for less than 30rips, much cheaper if you shop around.
 
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There's a John Wilson "Prime" series including a 10' match rod - just looked, there's one on ebay... won't be a Titan 2000, but it won't be rubbish.
 
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What about looking out for a 10' light ledger rod that will at a pinch double as ok for float work ?

Seem to remember Browning did a cheapie or two in their Zebco or other derivative ranges that would or might suit.....
 
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hhmmm, 10 ft might be a bit easier for them then 12ft.

Alan i will see if the local shops sell them, i dont like ebay.

Evan agan i will keep an eye out and get the kids to have a play.

thanks once again.
 
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Alan have a look at dragon carp they do a feeder rod and float rod plus reels for 29.99 I have a couple of their rods barbel and carp and they are as tough as old boots and wont let you down.They also do 10 foot rods alan.
 
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Alan, I just Googled 10ft feeder rods.

About 5 years ago I took my nephews fishing, age 6 & 9. They used a 10ft carbon swingtip rod (Silstar - mid 80s) and could handle it OK though it was very light, possibly a bit fragile for a youngster. There's good reason why short solid glass rods are OK for kids, their toughness (the rods not the kids!).
 
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As an angling coach who is out coaching children nearly every weekend during the summer, you really need to get the the biggest rods they can handle. I would suggest you look at light weight float rods and don't get anything shorter that 12ft for the 2 eldest boys. You could get a 10ft feeder rod which the youngest could use for float fishing at a push, but don't get anything shorter than this. With short rods you really are limited in the depth you can fish at and the distance you can cast. With a decent rod I usually get lads casting very well after about 10 minutes and I always use 13ft match rods. If they learn to cast these, they'll last for years to come.
 
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Gav ive heard nothing but bad reports about ordering from dragon, i will see if they are at the nec.

Mark, cheers for that, for ?10 i might have to order them.

Terry, i was thinking about a 12ft one for the eldest and 10ft for the other 2, when i say the middle one is small for his age there is about 4/5cm differance between the 2 younger ones.

distance and depth are not really that big a problem, where i normally take them is not very big, and they are fishing no more the then 20ft away, the depth is on average 2-3ft. we go there because its close, the fish are in perfect condition, hardly anyone knows its there, and the best bit is he doesnt charge me for the kids.
 
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Mark yes that's the Browning Zebco beastie I had in mind - two tops, one threaded for add on quivers and swingtips, and just that wee bit lighter than a solid rod, tho perhaps just a little less robust on the flip side....
At a penny short of ?15 you can't get much cheaper for the quality.
 
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