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The Monk
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Anyone stiil practice this method, I think its a lovely natural methods of taking fish, I`ve taken Chub abd Carp on this method over the years yet I rarely see anyone doing it these days
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Cakey
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naa dapping rod gone !
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Colin North, the one and only
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Not forgotten Monk, just don't go to too many places where it is permitted. Rainbows tend to splash at flies too much.
I used to fish Loch Maree for the Sea Trout. It is uncanny how, when fishing in a bit of a wave, your fly can be skating on a crest, disappear into a trough and when the trough rises to form the next crest, there is just a dimple where your fly used to be, and the fly is two feet down, and the trout long since gone. I lost count of the times this happened to me.
I fish in Ireland for a week or so, most years, and it is still practised there, particularly in the "Duffers Fortnight"
I used to fish Loch Maree for the Sea Trout. It is uncanny how, when fishing in a bit of a wave, your fly can be skating on a crest, disappear into a trough and when the trough rises to form the next crest, there is just a dimple where your fly used to be, and the fly is two feet down, and the trout long since gone. I lost count of the times this happened to me.
I fish in Ireland for a week or so, most years, and it is still practised there, particularly in the "Duffers Fortnight"
I still practice this old art on my local stretch of the Hampshire Avon Monk.
15' rod and my own dapping flies, or from time to time a few shop-bought flies as well.
I've taken: Dace, Chub, Brown Trout and Roach on this method.
Last summer though I was very unhappy as I broke my lovely old 15 foot built cane dapping rod which is still at the rod builder being repaired.
That said a 20' trotting rod is doing a pretty good job as a substitute.
It is a lovely method to employ especially late on a summer evening for the last hour or two of daylight.
15' rod and my own dapping flies, or from time to time a few shop-bought flies as well.
I've taken: Dace, Chub, Brown Trout and Roach on this method.
Last summer though I was very unhappy as I broke my lovely old 15 foot built cane dapping rod which is still at the rod builder being repaired.
That said a 20' trotting rod is doing a pretty good job as a substitute.
It is a lovely method to employ especially late on a summer evening for the last hour or two of daylight.
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david bruce 1
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Mitchel used to sell a telescopic fibreglass dapping rod. I have one. I once watch a venerable local expert dap for dace and chub reaching over the bushes in the Dane and dropping the fly onto the water. Great fun on a summmers evening. I have given it a try over the years with a little success - might try it again now you have reminded me.
Neneman Nick
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Are dapping flies the same as normal dry flies used in trout fishing?
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The Monk
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I`m not really sure if they produce specialist dapping flies Nick, I expect they do now, I`ve always used the insect type, grasshoopers and that sort of thing, basically you are immitating something which is suppose to have fallen from a tree, least that what I do!
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Nigel Connor(ACA ,SAA)
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I think they may be a little more heavily dressed to asisst buoyancy.
I seem to recollect that special lines were/are used to allow the wind to billow out the line to avoid the need for casting.
Perhaps the ever "dapper" Mr Jacobs could assist? ;-)
I seem to recollect that special lines were/are used to allow the wind to billow out the line to avoid the need for casting.
Perhaps the ever "dapper" Mr Jacobs could assist? ;-)
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Evan
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Yes, traditionally a couple of yards of wool would be added to the mainline up above the fly; thus giving a lightweight bulk to catch the wind. It was also usually fished quasi-pole style, ie. with no reel but a length of line the same length as the (long) rod tied to the tip ring.
As a method it is best and intended to be fished from a boat and on a day with some wind sufficient to cause a bit of a wave.
Let the line stream out on the wind, then lower the tip of the rod gently down from the vertical towards the water surface until the fly is just tip-tapping over the crests of the waves.... emulating a natural seeking to land lay eggs or knackered and on its last legs after laying.
Not a method I have often used but on the rare occasions when I have it certainly works - and the takes can be exciting - a real rod wrenching exercise.
As a method it is best and intended to be fished from a boat and on a day with some wind sufficient to cause a bit of a wave.
Let the line stream out on the wind, then lower the tip of the rod gently down from the vertical towards the water surface until the fly is just tip-tapping over the crests of the waves.... emulating a natural seeking to land lay eggs or knackered and on its last legs after laying.
Not a method I have often used but on the rare occasions when I have it certainly works - and the takes can be exciting - a real rod wrenching exercise.
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The Monk
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I tend to use either slightly over-dressed dry flies when dapping for coarse fish or spent spinners can also work very well.
From time to time I also tie on a detached body DLL, but basically, you are employing a terrestrial pattern.
For coarse fishing I only employ the method from the bankside, typically from behind good cover as you are fishing quite close in. A long rod is (obviously) a must as there is no weight on the line.
Nigel is right regarding dapping lines which, I think, were actually silk lines originally.
As the stretches of river that I fish this method on have a good head of decent Chub I always employ a reel, usually a centrepin.
(ever-dapper? I like that ;-)
From time to time I also tie on a detached body DLL, but basically, you are employing a terrestrial pattern.
For coarse fishing I only employ the method from the bankside, typically from behind good cover as you are fishing quite close in. A long rod is (obviously) a must as there is no weight on the line.
Nigel is right regarding dapping lines which, I think, were actually silk lines originally.
As the stretches of river that I fish this method on have a good head of decent Chub I always employ a reel, usually a centrepin.
(ever-dapper? I like that ;-)
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The Monk
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I occassionally use underdressed nymphs
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Not so much formal Dapping, but I tend to pick out the odd decent chub, using locust,crickets etc etc just poking out an Avon and lowering the little chap on the surface.
The take is quite dramatic, and nearly always gives one a little jolt....
The take is quite dramatic, and nearly always gives one a little jolt....
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Evan
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Yes, my source book on the method dates back to the silk line days....
'Catching Salmon and Sea Trout' by G. P. R. Balfour-Kinnear (in passing has anyone got a copy of 'Torridge Fishery' by the same author ? supposedly his best book but I've never seen a copy....)
I think that is part of the reason why a length of wool might be attached (wrapped around / paralell to the line, not flapping free) as a "sail", as silk lines tended to absorb water and get heavier unless fairly new and well dressed.
Reading about the intricacies of dressing a silk line and then softening a gut eyed fly makes you realise just how much tackle has progressed - and then reading about the fish caught before the first world war makes you realise just how much those game fish have gone backwards... *sigh*
'Catching Salmon and Sea Trout' by G. P. R. Balfour-Kinnear (in passing has anyone got a copy of 'Torridge Fishery' by the same author ? supposedly his best book but I've never seen a copy....)
I think that is part of the reason why a length of wool might be attached (wrapped around / paralell to the line, not flapping free) as a "sail", as silk lines tended to absorb water and get heavier unless fairly new and well dressed.
Reading about the intricacies of dressing a silk line and then softening a gut eyed fly makes you realise just how much tackle has progressed - and then reading about the fish caught before the first world war makes you realise just how much those game fish have gone backwards... *sigh*
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ED (The ORIGINAL and REAL one)
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Pity BC is not here to put his views to this post, he is currently in Italy with Mrs Bones on their cultural tour of Europe.
Got his postcard this morning.(minus a stamp --it cost me a pound)
" Dear Ed, having a great time, glad YOUR not here!"
I know BC is fond of dapping and uses special dapping flies when he fishes on the Irish loughs, he says at times it's so easy to fool them it's like giving strawberries to a donkey...
(or giving Ron a <u>crap</u> rod.)
Got his postcard this morning.(minus a stamp --it cost me a pound)
" Dear Ed, having a great time, glad YOUR not here!"
I know BC is fond of dapping and uses special dapping flies when he fishes on the Irish loughs, he says at times it's so easy to fool them it's like giving strawberries to a donkey...
(or giving Ron a <u>crap</u> rod.)
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david bruce 1
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Irish dapping flies. My set are quite big and very very 'bushy' I have a dapping line which is +20 strands of very fine whitish synthetic fibres. Always frightened it will snap as each fibre is quite fragile it but hasn't yet.