bigdog78
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I need some help IDing a fish caught last season . where would the correct place to put the thread .be. p.s any tips on uploading photos? thanks p.p.s its an absolute head doer not knowing what it is lol 
Mystery (possibly) fish hybrid?
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bigdog78
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beerweasel
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Looks like an Ide to me Bigdog. :w
barbelboi
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An Ide.
Jerry
On closer examination it appears a bit short of scales on the lateral line (I believe it should have mid 50s to be an Ide - is it possibly a roach chub hybrid?
Jerry
On closer examination it appears a bit short of scales on the lateral line (I believe it should have mid 50s to be an Ide - is it possibly a roach chub hybrid?
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Alan Tyler
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Concave dorsal; not a chub.
Not sure if chub ever hybridise, and I've never seen an ide, but there seem to be plenty escaping into rivers, so that's probably the safest bet.
Not sure if chub ever hybridise, and I've never seen an ide, but there seem to be plenty escaping into rivers, so that's probably the safest bet.
beerweasel
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I make the lateral line count 56 which would fit for Ide.
The mouth looks too small for Chub, and the Dorsal and Tail look too pointy.
The mouth looks too small for Chub, and the Dorsal and Tail look too pointy.
The dorsal fin, small-ish mouth and the lateral line count would lead me towards thinking its an Ide.
They are very common in Scandinavia and if you were on the right river pegs you could easily win sections and matches with a netful of Ide.
I've never caught one in the UK though, pity really as they can fight well on light-ish tackle.
They are very common in Scandinavia and if you were on the right river pegs you could easily win sections and matches with a netful of Ide.
I've never caught one in the UK though, pity really as they can fight well on light-ish tackle.
bigdog78
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http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u75/BartHeijboer/38cm-bewerkt.jpg.. Rudd/chub?
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Exactly what i thought B.W plus it has a slightly downturned mouth.
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Exactly what i thought B.W plus it has a slightly downturned mouth.
Lord Paul of Sheffield
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agree the mouth looks too small for chub but I thought ide were more silver coloured
geoffmaynard
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Ide I reckon. They go though lots of colours, right up to when they become Golden Orf.
Alan Tyler
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Once they're bright gold, they 'ave to be orfe 'cos they can't 'ide.
Coat and taxi await...
Coat and taxi await...
bigdog78
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barbelboi
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Good counting BW, after I decided an Ide on first sight I went back and counted
around 49/50 .......should have gone to Specsavers
mg:.Jerry
beerweasel
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Good counting BW, after I decided an Ide on first sight I went back and counted
around 49/50 .......should have gone to Specsavers
Jerry
Maybe your right Jerry, counting was never my forte or is it fifte ? :w
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I didn't know what the hell an Ide looked like [let alone the lateral line scale count] so I googled it.
That's an Ide.
That's an Ide.
chub_on_the_block
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Nice fish. Not sure at all, but i am leaning towards Ide now. At first i thought it was just an unusual looking chub, with more strongly coloured anal and pectoral fins.
Golden Orfe, which are an ornamental form of Ide feel different to the touch than roacjh or chub - the scales are more "prickly" for want of a better explanation. But then again it is some time since i handled any.