Newbie like question but its p^^^^^g me off!

dave11 · Jun 21, 2012

Not exactly a 30 year olds question but i never really have used worms as i am more of a pike angler but the fish i am targetting for the first time is Perch (well not quite but linmited) so my worm fishing has been a bit of a doe doe.

So...Fishing for perch is easy on maggs but ruddy worms people say nip it through the head so there i was and everytime (no crayfish here) it just gets bitten off. Tried hooking twice and same result....I fish predators with roll overs and any movement and off they go but its crazy

Any advice here....would be interesting to see mathods as maybe a better rig but i see it harder to see a better one that free running with roll overs but open to ideas

robthomo · Jun 21, 2012

Personally I prefer fishing the tip for them or bobbins if using multiple rods

Hooking wise I guesss your using lobs? I cut off a bit of the tail end of the worm, insert the hook point into the cut and work the worm around the bend slightly before exiting, I normally use a size 4 wide gape hook, no need to fish light for perch and the large hook helps to stop the worm obscuring the point,

dave11 · Jun 21, 2012

Size 4 ...Jeez...That's a big hook for a Perch......

....And what mainline strength, braid or mono?. running or bolt?

robthomo · Jun 21, 2012

Nah the hook size is fine mate don't worry about that, you seen the size of the cakehole on a big perch?

If fishing the tip then I use a paternoster, they don't get time to run far before I'm on them, when bobbin fishing a running lead and try to minimise resistance. For both 6lb mono mainline with a 4 or 5lb hooklink.

agamemnon · Jun 22, 2012

for lob worms i would hook in the centre of the worm and use a small bit of rubber band over the end of the hook to stop the worm from working its way of the hook. i think a size 4 is far to big for perch fishing and would prob use a size 8 or 10. id use a free running paternoster rig with 6lbs line and 5lbs braid or fluro carbon hook link. though it is a long time since ive actualy fished for perch i doubt methods have changed that much

dave11 · Jun 22, 2012

I have talked to perch anglers and the variety of hooks to be used is quite amazing. I have heard Size 4 -14 speciman or not... Still horses for courses i guess.

robthomo · Jun 22, 2012

agamemnon said:
for lob worms i would hook in the centre of the worm and use a small bit of rubber band over the end of the hook to stop the worm from working its way of the hook. i think a size 4 is far to big for perch fishing and would prob use a size 8 or 10. id use a free running paternoster rig with 6lbs line and 5lbs braid or fluro carbon hook link. though it is a long time since ive actualy fished for perch i doubt methods have changed that much

Hooking the worm in the centre increases the chances of it doubling around on its self and obscuring the point.

Why do you think a 4 is too big?

barbelboi · Jun 22, 2012

To put things in perspective I’ve caught dace on free lined whole lobworm on size 4 hooks meant for chub (obviously wouldn’t use them for dace intentionally

). I also use size 4 or 6 hooks for perch when baiting with a whole lob worm although I prefer to hook them in the saddle, push them up along the shank to hide it and keep the point exposed by using a piece of red rubber band or rubber maggot.
Jerry

terry m · Jun 22, 2012

For me lobs hooked through the saddle with a piece of rubber or a couple of maggots to keep the lob on the hook.

A size 4 is not too big at all, for example I would use a Super Specialist size 2 when livebaiting a minnow for perch. A size 4 may be too big for a roach or a rudd, but not for a perch!

robthomo · Jun 23, 2012

I think the age old theory of "balanced tackle" is to blame for many people thinking that they can't use certain set ups, large hooks with lighter line etc, it's rubbish. I very rarely use smaller than a 4 for my chubbing either, often tied to low diameter 4.6lb line, in theory wrong, in practice spot on.

terry m · Jun 23, 2012

robthomo said:
, in theory wrong, in practice spot on.

The theory is flawed. I completely agree with your practice.

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