what do you class as an all round angler

Lord Paul of Sheffield · Aug 17, 2012

I coarse fish, fly fish and occasionally carp fish but have never sea fished but class myself as an all round pleasure angler

I forgot I did fish a few matches in my youth

What do you class as all round anglers

Ray Roberts · Aug 17, 2012

If I don't lose a bit of weight I am in danger of becoming an all round angler.

I fish for anything with fins that interests me, a bit of a "jack of all trades". I would say that makes me an all round angler. I'm as happy fishing for roach as I am fishing for shark.

dave11 · Aug 17, 2012

Not sure there is such a thing as 'An all round angler' in my view. There are few anglers whether they fish for carp or barbel who can't fish either. They may be rubbish at it but i think an angler is just an angler?

sam vimes · Aug 17, 2012

It may not be correct, but my idea of an all-rounder stems from the rise and rise of single species specialist angling. Once upon a time no one started out in their fishing life as a carp or barbel angler, now a fair few do. They don't have the background in angling that many of us benefitted. There are people out there that have never fished with a float.

Therefore, my idea of an all-rounder is anyone that is more than a single species (single method?

) specialist. However, a carper that has the odd dabble on a winter river for barbel doesn't really count. Matt Hayes and John Wilson are probably as good an example of all-rounders as you'll get. However, as far as I'm concerned, the fly and sea fishing isn't required to be considered an all-rounder.

If you can fill a fairly substantial sized room/garage/shed with gear (that isn't all duplicated hording or matching doubles/triples), you are probably are an all-rounder.

cg74 · Aug 17, 2012

For me there are two definitions of 'an all rounder'

An all rounder in the sense that they actively participate in all genres of angling; coarse, game and sea. Something I might have once considered myself but definitely not now, as I can't abide fluff fling.

Or an all rounder within the confines of one particular genre of angling; a coarse angler that actively fishes for a full range of species.
Predators; perch, zander, pike, wels
Cyprinids; chub, roach, tench, dace, barbel, carp, bream
Salmonids; grayling

I don't think an angler necessarily has to actually target every species but should target a wide range of the species and should cover both of the top two groups I've listed.

So despite me viewing dace as a pointless target and perch as a worthless quarry, I still fit the bill as 'an all round' coarse angler.

mark brailsford 2 · Aug 17, 2012

Lord Paul of Sheffield said:
I coarse fish, fly fish and occasionally carp fish but have never sea fished but class myself as an all round pleasure angler

I forgot I did fish a few matches in my youth

What do you class as all round anglers

I like fishing full stop Paul so I guess I am an allrounder, although I have never had the chance to go Bass fishing in Jersey or tarpon fishing in Cuba (I could have done it if it was not for the call of BEER

) I have done most types of fishing over the years and have enjoyed it all

dangermouse · Aug 17, 2012

cg74 said:
perch as a worthless quarry,

Why do you have that opinion? A large perch is a beautiful fish and certainly not easy to catch.

cg74 · Aug 17, 2012

dangermouse said:
Why do you have that opinion? A large perch is a beautiful fish and certainly not easy to catch.

I find big perch (over about 2lb) tend to be pig ugly but I've grown to dislike them most because the times they've stolen a large lob worm meant for a chub..... More recently (March 2011), I caught a 3-14 perch on a paste wrapped Elips pellet, in complete darkness - I guess some things never change!

I have tried to fish for them but as soon as I discovered there were zander in the canal, I switched my efforts to them.
They just do nothing for me - rather like bream.

dave11 · Aug 17, 2012

cg74 said:
I find big perch (over about 2lb) tend to be pig ugly but I've grown to dislike them most because the times they've stolen a large lob worm meant for a chub..... More recently (March 2011), I caught a 3-14 perch on a paste wrapped Elips pellet, in complete darkness - I guess some things never change!

I have tried to fish for them but as soon as I discovered there were zander in the canal, I switched my efforts to them.
They just do nothing for me - rather like bream.

Sorry but i can only laugh at this....i can't bring myself to words

mg:

sam vimes · Aug 17, 2012

dave1 said:
Sorry but i can only laugh at this....i can't bring myself to wordsmg:

Why? We're all different and all have different likes and dislikes. CG doesn't have much time for bream and perch, can't say as I share that feeling though. It's pike, zander and eels that leave me cold.

cg74 · Aug 17, 2012

dave1 said:
Sorry but i can only laugh at this....i can't bring myself to wordsmg:

Why? Are you one of those that welcomes the capture of any/all species?

mark brailsford 2 · Aug 17, 2012

cg74 said:
Cyprinids; chub, roach, tench, dace, barbel, carp, bream

You need a biology lesson in fish classification mate

cg74 · Aug 17, 2012

mark brailsford 2 said:
You need a biology lesson in fish classification mate

Why? Are; chub, roach, tench, dace, barbel, carp, bream not all examples of Cyprinids (family group Cyprinidae)?

laguna · Aug 17, 2012

If it means wearing your pants high above your waist like Simon Cowell's,
Then I am indeed an "all round angler"

mg:

Coarse, Sea and Game may be one definition, but all round to me means you're able to adapt and change methods/tactics, are not constrained/inexperienced with using just certain kinds of tackle and regularly target more than one species.

Poshpaul (Angling Trust and PaSC) · Aug 17, 2012

cg74 said:
Why? Are; chub, roach, tench, dace, barbel, carp, bream not all examples of Cyprinids (family group Cyprinidae)?

I thought Colin was wrong here...then I thought we may disagree on some things but a chap, so young, who appreciates Jilted John may have something about him...so I checked.

They are all cyprinids - albeit in different subfamilies. Mind you there are so many cyprinid subfamilies we may all be part of them!!!

S-Kippy · Aug 17, 2012

I've always thought of an all rounder as being someone who fished for a variety of species,did so using a variety of methods and on both still & running water. I dont think you have to coarse,game & sea fish to qualify but in my book you would have to be competent using a float,lead or fly on still or running water tagetting a broad [but not all inclusive] range of species. Single species/single method/single "type" ie match fishing would not count as being an all rounder.

I dont sea fish but I do fish for trout,sea trout & most coarse species and on both still/running water. I can trot a float,fish a feeder,cast a fly & catch pretty well whatever species I set out to catch & do so by using a variety of methods. I think I qualify.

terry m · Aug 17, 2012

sam vimes said:
It may not be correct, but my idea of an all-rounder stems from the rise and rise of single species specialist angling. Once upon a time no one started out in their fishing life as a carp or barbel angler, now a fair few do. They don't have the background in angling that many of us benefitted. There are people out there that have never fished with a float.

Therefore, my idea of an all-rounder is anyone that is more than a single species (single method?) specialist. However, a carper that has the odd dabble on a winter river for barbel doesn't really count. Matt Hayes and John Wilson are probably as good an example of all-rounders as you'll get. However, as far as I'm concerned, the fly and sea fishing isn't required to be considered an all-rounder.

If you can fill a fairly substantial sized room/garage/shed with gear (that isn't all duplicated hording or matching doubles/triples), you are probably are an all-rounder.

A good summary, my take on what constitutes an all rounder also.

barbelboi · Aug 17, 2012

Yep, I'm an all rounder............I'll fish around a pond, a pit, a river,etc...............

Jerry

cg74 · Aug 18, 2012

Poshpaul (Angling Trust and PaSC) said:
I thought Colin was wrong here...then I thought we may disagree on some things but a chap, so young, who appreciates Jilted John may have something about him...so I checked.

They are all cyprinids - albeit in different subfamilies. Mind you there are so many cyprinid subfamilies we may all be part of them!!!

Wrong, wrong, who me - I'm shocked the thought even entered your mind; I don't do wrong, well not too often........

dezza · Aug 20, 2012

The definition of who is an all-round angler might be difficult.

In my life I have fished for all the common European coarse fish, and caught them. I have used all the accepted methods of angling including fly fishing. As regards fly fishing I have caught brown trout, sea trout, rainbow trout, brook trout, and grayling in about 12 separate countries. I have never caught a salmon on the "fly" (although I do not classify fly fishing for salmon as proper fly fishing), so I have never handled a double handed fly rod.

However I have caught over 40 species of fish on the fly rod - quite a few sea species amongst them; A method that took up most of my time for over 15 years.

The only style of fishing I do not have much experience with is big game fishing for species like marlin or tuna. I've never had the money to do it properly and the only marlin I ever hooked got eaten by a shark.

An all round angler is one who is prepared to have a bash at any type of fishing with rod and line. I certainly have had this ideal, however there are some sorts of fishing that now are a little beyond me at my age.

They demand too much physical effort.

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