predator tool kits

Lord Paul of Sheffield · Dec 8, 2012

I've seen in a magazine the Grey's Prowla kit , what other kit is available and do you need it all

So far I'm using a pair of forcets , and a couple of pliers from my diy gear

Jeff Woodhouse · Dec 8, 2012

Lord Paul of Sheffield said:
and a couple of pliers from my diy gear

Leave them in the shed.

Greys Prowla or Fox, both are pretty good. Long (10 or 12") forceps, long nosed pliers just in case, side cutters to snip off barbs and break hooks up, those are the main ones, but get a pair of crimps and make you own traces up!

Don't forget the gaff, the gag and a priest.

:wh

Taxi!!!!!

terry m · Dec 8, 2012

I would recommend the John Roberts deep hooked treble remover. It can happen to the most vigilant of us and the tool gives you a great opportunity to free deep hooked trebles without damaging the fish.

binka · Dec 9, 2012

I always used to make do with a single pair of 12" forceps and have now added a 6" set which are much easier to handle when you're unhooking a fish in the scissors.

Also, on that rare but inevitable occasion as Terry mentions when you get a deep hooked fish I use the smaller pair to clamp to the top trace swivel and this enables me to hold the forceps under my armpit to get a bit of pull whilst i'm free to hold and unhook the fish using the longer set with my hands, this way the smaller forceps are well clear of the fish if it decides to have a sudden thrash around until it calms down again and you can safely remove the hooks.

mark brailsford 2 · Dec 9, 2012

I have a pair of multi-pliers (they have a split ring opener on the end) by fox, a pair of side cutters, a pair of specialist long nose pliers, which I find more usefull than normal forceps as I get a better grip and a crimping tool all by...bloody hell, can't remember the name!! Oh, just remembered ET, the ones with the yellow handles, nice quality for the money!

One more thing, never ever go pike fishing without a good sized net and a very big un-hooking mat...you never know

agamemnon · Dec 9, 2012

i have 6" and 12" forceps and a pair of pliers and a pair of wire cutters. no need for a crimping tool as the wire cutters do this job fine

Coxy · Dec 19, 2012

Side cutters are the tools that are usualy missing from pike anglers armoury but although rarely needed, one of the most important in my opinion. I use a pair of 8" piano wire cutters for bait fishing with push on aluminium pipe extensions if required. The Fox & ET extra long cutters are excellent tools for the job but are a little heavy for traveling light.

graham472 · Dec 19, 2012

Mini bolt croppers are a good alternative to side cutters.Once freed a cow tangled up in a wire fence no problem.

mark brailsford 2 · Dec 20, 2012

graham472 said:
Mini bolt croppers are a good alternative to side cutters.Once freed a cow tangled up in a wire fence no problem.

Good on yer mate, I once found a young rabbit caught in some wire under a hedge on the way home from the pub one night, its a good job I allways carry my trusty folder with me, not advised on Manchester Piccadilly railway station though, even though my knife is legal carry the bobbies would not be imprest with me for having it in my pocket in such a place without a good reason for having it on me!!

terry m · Dec 20, 2012

Coxy said:
Side cutters are the tools that are usualy missing from pike anglers armoury but although rarely needed, one of the most important in my opinion. I use a pair of 8" piano wire cutters for bait fishing with push on aluminium pipe extensions if required. The Fox & ET extra long cutters are excellent tools for the job but are a little heavy for traveling light.

Yes, completely agree. The long Fox sidecutters are rarely called upon, but when needed they are invaluable.

nicky · Dec 27, 2012

SAVAGE GEAR PISTOL DEEP THROAT HOOK OUT FORCEPS PIKE SEA FISHING | eBay

Are the savage gear deep hook pistols any good.

Ive managed for years with forceps, long nose pliars, and cutters for years but struggled today on one fish, managed to get hooks out and fish swam away strong but could have done with something stronger than forceps.

Just ordered some fox xtra long side cutters as well

terry m · Dec 27, 2012

Nicky - personally those tools look rather brutal to me, but like everything, it is the user that makes a difference.

Before buyinh the savage gear tools, I suggest you check out the purpose made Fox pike forceps, they lock incredibly tightly and are made for purpose. I also think that in the right hands they are probably more accurate and precise than the aptly named Savage Gear tool.

nicky · Dec 27, 2012

i might get those fox ones now if you think they are good they about 12 quid for the 9.5" version, problem i had today the bottom treble just hooked out of site and i couldnt get hold of it without placing my hand inside pike mouth and i never wear a glove. I could have done with cutting it out but some how it popped free.
I suppose it only when you hit a problem that it forces you to re-evaluate your gear i've neved had a problem before.

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I also unhooked a tricky pike for some kids who had no experience today i think im going to go to my first club meeting next year and tell them that there should be a ban on kids fishing for pike on our water. Nice bunch of kids but they shouldnt be allowed to fish for pike unsupervised

mark brailsford 2 · Dec 28, 2012

nicky said:
SAVAGE GEAR PISTOL DEEP THROAT HOOK OUT FORCEPS PIKE SEA FISHING | eBay

Are the savage gear deep hook pistols any good.

Ive managed for years with forceps, long nose pliars, and cutters for years but struggled today on one fish, managed to get hooks out and fish swam away strong but could have done with something stronger than forceps.

Just ordered some fox xtra long side cutters as well

A mate of mine had a pair of those pistol grip jobs and went back to normal Fox long nose pliers, they are a pig to handle and he discarded them after one fishing trip.

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nicky said:
i might get those fox ones now if you think they are good they about 12 quid for the 9.5" version, problem i had today the bottom treble just hooked out of site and i couldnt get hold of it without placing my hand inside pike mouth and i never wear a glove. I could have done with cutting it out but some how it popped free.
I suppose it only when you hit a problem that it forces you to re-evaluate your gear i've neved had a problem before.

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I also unhooked a tricky pike for some kids who had no experience today i think im going to go to my first club meeting next year and tell them that there should be a ban on kids fishing for pike on our water. Nice bunch of kids but they shouldnt be allowed to fish for pike unsupervised

Nicky,
Take a look on the Harris Sportsmail website, they have a super selection of tools from fox, ET, and savage gear and their service is top notch...Free postage too if you order several items.
IMO you are better buying from a proper tackle company than EBAY!

split shot · Dec 28, 2012

nicky said:
[/COLOR]I also unhooked a tricky pike for some kids who had no experience today i think im going to go to my first club meeting next year and tell them that there should be a ban on kids fishing for pike on our water. Nice bunch of kids but they shouldnt be allowed to fish for pike unsupervised

Why is banning kids even contemplated as a solution? At best it becomes someone else's problem, where there might not be any help at all, at worst we lose them from the sport.
Don't you think the club providing some coaching might be a better solution? The PAG have been only too pleased to run coaching in my area.
Kids aren't the problem, it's inexperience at whatever age.

mark brailsford 2 · Dec 28, 2012

split shot said:
Why is banning kids even contemplated as a solution? At best it becomes someone else's problem, where there might not be any help at all, at worst we lose them from the sport.
Don't you think the club providing some coaching might be a better solution? The PAG have been only too pleased to run coaching in my area.
Kids aren't the problem, it's inexperience at whatever age.

I agree,
I have seen Adults trying to catch pike with Boat rods and surf casters, no proper unhooking tools no mat and no traces. I have tried to offer advice before but I just get told to go forth and multi-ply! As for kids, if you discourage them by a ban then you are not helping these kids get in to this great sport, quite the opposite, they should be encouraged by taking them in and giving them proper guidance.

nicky · Dec 28, 2012

Well i showed them what to do and how to handle the pike but if i hadnt have been there they would never have unhooked it. Infact they told me they had lost a larger one a week before they said that their float had been moving about but they didnt realise that it was a bite for some time and they lost it. The last pike of the day i caught had a trace down its throat and had bitten off the mono it was so deep i couldnt remove it so thats probably going to be a dead pike almost twenty pound. My water is a town water so kids from all over the place just turn up and fish. I dont want to discourage kids but as you all know pike fishing is the one type of fishing that shouldnt be done without any experience.

binka · Dec 28, 2012

I would agree completely with that and it's a difficult balance to achieve, especially considering that it really needs to be addressed at an early if not the first stage of pike fishing.

On the one hand you have the imbeciles that see pike as the murderers and stock depleters of many fisheries that deny them bigger catches and on the other hand you have those that understand and appreciate how fragile the species actually is, and a species that will only survive in a balanced natural environment without the intervention of "he who knows better" and whom is happy to catch an endless stream of over populated, stunted and diseased fish.

Quite how you could educate and police this, other than doing what you did albeit too late for that poor fish but with the best intentions, i'm not sure.

M&B · Dec 28, 2012

Standard pike un hooking gear, large and small forceps pair of long handled wire cutters, no gloves I cringe and wonder how much damage is done by wearing leather gloves.

binka · Dec 28, 2012

I used gloves many years ago and don't now, for one I wasn't sure if it had any detrimental effect on the fish and two I think that without them you can actually feel when a fish is beginning to tense up prior to a thrash and you can prepare yourself to control them before removing the hooks.

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