dalesman
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thing of adding a Avon rod to my armoury but which and why.
For stalking the margins for carp and for perch
For stalking the margins for carp and for perch
Avon Rods
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jimlad
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The drennan series 7 avon rod is a wonderful bit of kit, though I've never bothered with the avon top, rather stick with the tips. I often found the avon section superfluous for my needs...
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robtherake
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I've been using a pair of Fox Avon duos for years. Beautiful, smooth through actioned rods perfect for close-in action.
Now discontinued but occasionally turn up second-hand at about £70 each.
Now discontinued but occasionally turn up second-hand at about £70 each.
terry m
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At the risk of scorn pouring, I have to say that I love the original J Wilson twin tip Avon, I have a couple of them.
Long since taken from production, but they crop up on ebay and you can get a minter for c£50
Long since taken from production, but they crop up on ebay and you can get a minter for c£50
Sean Meeghan
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My mate has a pair of Greys Prodigy TX rods in a 1.25lb test curve which he likes very much. They also do a 1lb version I think.
Personally I use a Chapmans 500.
Personally I use a Chapmans 500.
Re the previous entry re John Wilson rods and the scorning. Yes they are good very adaptable and good value with two tops and 3 quiver tips.In
fact after lunch today I'm off to a local weedy tench lake with my stepped up barbel version until midnight or so.
There are always tackle tarts that must have the latest "in" name on a very expensive rod. I doubt they catch more though.
fact after lunch today I'm off to a local weedy tench lake with my stepped up barbel version until midnight or so.
There are always tackle tarts that must have the latest "in" name on a very expensive rod. I doubt they catch more though.
I had the John Willo Avon Quiver, Mk 2 version with 3 quiver tips, in the early noughties and used it for everything until I got stuck into an 8lb barbel in a deep, fast, rocky pool on the Ribble. After that I bought myself a Wychwood 1.75lb rod for my barbel fishing. Didn't let it put me off the JW rod though, just a case of horses for courses.
sam vimes
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Alternatively, there are people that would rather use a rod of a similar vintage (Daiwa Powermesh Avon) that absolutely spanks the JW rods into oblivion.
Alternatively, there are people that would rather use a rod of a similar vintage (Daiwa Powermesh Avon) that absolutely spanks the JW rods into oblivion.
I think if I remember right those were over £150 new and only came with the one tip
sam vimes
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I think if I remember right those were over £150 new and only came with the one tip
Absolutely, and even now they go for around the £50 mark. They still spank any of the JW rods, that folks are suggesting people would be well served by, for not a great deal, if any, more money.
I think 50 is a bit on the conservative side Sam a decent one goes for about 80 plus
Regarding the wilson avon it never did john wilson any harm if you remember.
Daiwa Powermesh Specialist Avon PMS112 | eBay
sam vimes
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As I have two, and always keep my eyes open for them, I'd be happy if that was the case. However, there's been a relative glut of them on ebay recently. The best price has been £72 + £10 P+P. The last two have gone for £50 and £50.12 (inc P+P).
daiwa powermesh Avon | eBay
Bargains? I should think so. Better than any of the JW Avons? Oh yes, even if they don't have a quiver section.
Tarty? Expensive? The latest thing? A no on each count.
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nicepix
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I've got the Prodigy VX 1.25lb test curve and a Chapmans 500. Totally different rods and I would take the Chapmans every time over the Greys for margin fishing. Much more forgiving on a short line. I use mine for small carp and also for chub and mullet fishing for which it is ideal. I can't see the OP getting one for less than £150 though.
terry m
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I accept that views on the original JW Avon are mixed, but none of the detractors have ever given a plausible explanation as to the fundamental faults with it.
I am no Wilson fan but I truly cannot fault the rod, and as somebody else pointed out, the phenomenal sales achieved would suggest that it is not plagued with faults.
I am no Wilson fan but I truly cannot fault the rod, and as somebody else pointed out, the phenomenal sales achieved would suggest that it is not plagued with faults.
sam vimes
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I wouldn't try to suggest that it's plagued with faults, but it just didn't suit me at all. Too spongy for the better fish and the quiver section is too light for the rivers I wanted to use it on. As far as I'm concerned it's the ultimate compromise rod. Compromise on price, fittings, usage, the lot. Jack of all trades, master of none. You can do far better with a decent Avon rod and a proper quiver rod.
I'm afraid that bare sales figures mean nowt, just as they do in most spheres. I'll bet that Daiwa have sold plenty of the 1657DM reels in the twenty plus years it has been produced. However, it'll never be a good reel as long as I've got a hole in my bum. There are plenty more examples, even in fishing gear, where sales figures don't necessarily equate to product excellence.
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nicepix
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It might be that there are no faults as such, just that some of the other rods are regarded as being better for whatever reason. I think that we all have had rods that we are happy with, but then you get to use something else and prefer it.
I have a JW Travel Avon and think that it is a great rod. Can't fault it for all round fishing. Very versatile. But it isn't the first rod I'd pick up for float fishing.
I have three Wilson avons a travel a standard one and a Barbel version. I personally would not buy three of these if they were rubbish mate. I have caught everything from dace to bass off the coast on them. I like the travel version the best but they are all very capable rods in there own right IMO. In fact if I sold all my rods (heaven forbid) today and kept one it would be the avon travel no question.
terry m
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But everything you have listed is subjective and down to personal views. I can live with that as we all have things that we do or do not like.
But I do take exception to the statement "bare sales figures mean nowt, just as they do in most spheres", I am not sure what business you are in but in every business I have been involved in sales figures mean everything, it strikes me as particularly odd to suggest otherwise. For sure I get the bit about cost v margin and pitching a product to the masses as opposed to being a niche offering, but surely if customers are buying high volumes of a product, that says a lot about that product or have the laws of commerce been redefined whilst I was not looking?
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