best place in Britain for fishing

Lord Paul of Sheffield

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So where is best

The south for big carp

Scotland for trout or a southern chalk stream

Around Lincolnshire and south Yorkshire for commercial fishing

The Trent for river , or maybe a southern river

What are your views
 

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I’m happy where I am, within a few miles the Colne Valley pits, farm ponds, estate lakes, the Colne, Wraysbury, Duke of Northumberland, Colnebrook, Loddon, Kennet, Frayes, Mole, Ember, Thames and more...................
 

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The river systems of County Durham and North Yorkshire. Truly wild, and great


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I’m happy where I am, within a few miles the Colne Valley pits, farm ponds, estate lakes, the Colne, Wraysbury, Duke of Northumberland, Colnebrook, Loddon, Kennet, Frayes, Mole, Ember, Thames and more...................


You have missed the tiniest and greatest of all - Bigley Ditch. Done me a double a few years ago. The fish was almost longer than stream was wide, but then I am a Total Extreme Hero.
 

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Shhhh............I keep that one quiet ;)


I have this mental image of the Camo Horde suddenly descending on these at best very average to semi non-existent pieces of water and asking any person not sensible enough to have run for cover "Oi, where's Boote's and Barbelboi's swims, the ones that did 'em a double...?"
 

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I have to agree with jimlad; North Yorkshire and the Tyne, Wear, Tees, catchments , a great mixture of commercialised fisheries, wild rivers, canals, natural lakes and reservoirs. Great coarse fishing, excellent wild brown trout, grayling, sea trout and salmon. throw into that mix cod from the shore all year round. Spoilt for choice really
 

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I can't vouch for the quality of fishing but recently I had to go to Oxford and I couldn't believe how much water there is there.

It was like Vietnam in the wet season.

That said, I guess one would be tangling with "educated" fish........:)
 

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I live on the edge of the fens and judging by the 'named-angler' traffic we are currently seeing locally I would think we have arguably the best rudd fishing in our rivers/pits and drain anywhere in the country. There is also a great standard of general coarse fishing to be had all over the fens including some superb predator fishing.

Some of the drains are like massive elongated estate lakes with mile upon mile of lily dotted margins and crystal clear weed-choked water to go at. As you can imagine the carp/tench fishing is fabulous in some of these waters.

And curiously the idea that these fen water courses are under increasing angler pressure is, IMHO, greatly exaggerated at times. I can fish on a Sunday morning and have perhaps five miles of bank to myself. The only real pressure tends to be focussed on the areas immediately adjacent to car-parking spots. Walk half a mile and you can generally fish in absolute peace.

So I would say that Norfolk/lincs can lay claim to some of the best fishing in Britain. :)
 
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I know its not the UK but I thought that I'd give you some idea of what I have local to me here on the Charente / Limousine / Dordogne borders.

Annual rod licences cost around 92 euro and they give you access to any river and all the public lakes without the need for day tickets or other fees. You can cross fields to access rivers or lakes without any of the hassle of trespass that you might find in the UK.

There are two main rivers nearby; the Vienne and the Charente.

The Vienne is about the same size as the Severn, 100 metres wide, a fast flowing mainly shallow river over granite and gravel for much of its length locally. It holds carp, catfish, dace and barbel in the faster water along with bream, roach and chub in the slower stretches. As the river is controlled by weirs every couple of kilometers and has several huge dams along its length the flow is consistent to within one metre summer or winter. No floods and drought like some UK rivers. In the deeper stretches near to the nearby town catfish of over 120lb have been caught and the river record carp is around 40lb.

The Charente is fed by one of the large lakes and is a more intimate meandering river that flows over a mainly muddy bottom. That too holds barbel and carp, but has some really good chub fishing too as well as roach, bream and catfish. Once the nettles have died back this river is ideal for stalking chub and river carp much the same as I did back in the UK.

Along with the two main rivers are many smaller tributaries some of which are designated as class 1, i.e trout, and others class 2, coarse fish. The classification determines when you can fish them and what baits you can use. For example, there is no close season on class 2 waters and you can't use maggots on class 1 waters. These tributaries range from tiny streams to small pools joined by lengths of shallow stream to fully fishable streams for long stretches. They stock the trout rivers annually and there is a fishfest for about three weeks at the beginning of the season then the trout that are left behind are allowed to grow bigger and wiser as no one seems to bother them until the next nouveau season.

There are two large lakes nearby, 220 hectares each; Lavaud and Mas Chaban.

Lavaud is the 'leisure' lake with several beaches, restaurants and sailing facilities on the main part of the lake. Due to the way they are arranged however, there are always intimate bays and wooded stretches of bank where you can hide yourself away from other anglers or lake users.

Nearby Mas Chaban is the 'fishing' lake in that it does not have restaurants, etc and is favoured by the locals for its huge catfish (160lbs) and impressive carp (60lbs+). There are many areas where you could drive to the waters edge and fish for long sessions and there are also many areas accessible via a short walk that do not get fished by local anglers. Some of it is totally virgin territory. There are some good zander in this lake and from around the beginning of October until the end of the predator season on 31st December the local anglers target zander by fishing the deepest parts of the lakes. And so will I.

Other than the two large lakes there are dozens if not hundreds of smaller lakes all available to fish on the rod licence. Some are stocked with black bass and others carp and trout. The only thing lacking is a decent tench water. When I asked the local tackle dealer ("Le gardon du Chabanais" - sounds better than '"The roach of Barnsley") where I could find some tench he screwed his face, pursed his lips and inflated his cheeks like a shubunkin as he thought deeply then suggested a day ticket water at a nearby village. At 7 euros a day I don't think I'll bother.

Venturing a bit further afield, say 20km gives access to other rivers such as the Tardoire which is a shallow trout river of around 15 to 20 metres wide, similar to the middle Wharfe and half a dozen coarse rivers holding barbel and chub as well as the omnipresent river carpes.

So, for 92 euros a year it ain't too shabby.
 

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Not shabby at all, Nicepix - a wealth of fishing at a very reasonable price.

Remember the other day, when I was beating on in this thread - http://www.fishingmagic.com/forums/.../339977-aussie-tourist-s-england-triumph.html - about Argentina (and a lot of southern Chile, too) and how it / they lost most public access waters to a bunch of posh Brits (who already had the best private water over here, in Scotland and England, and who wanted some fishing for their winter hols and also a source of big easy income) and other well-connected mega-wealthy foreigners?

And people wonder why there are not so many anglers about now, fewer newbies coming into the pastime...
 

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I don't think that's got much to do with it. Even with all the free access over here, and there are still plenty of good cheap and free fishing in the UK, I don't see the number of youngsters fishing that I did in the 1960's and 1970's.
 

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Oh yes it has, Nicepix. And many people know it - hence all the carp I have had from the top of the fly world for the past twenty years: terribly nice, very discreet, virtually no-name unknown big-name people to the general herd, who absolutely carped themselves when one of their own rocked the fishy ship of state!
 

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Oh yes it has, Nicepix. And many people know it - hence all the carp I have had from the top of the fly world for the past twenty years: terribly nice, very discreet, virtually no-name unknown big-name people to the general herd, who absolutely carped themselves when one of their own rocked the fishy ship of state!

You're obviously in a world of your own. I'll leave you to it.

Going back to the thread;

I lived in Sth. Yorkshire before coming to France. For the last few years I fished virtually exclusively on free stretches of water. There are large stretches of the Rivers Dearne, Don and Rother that hold a surprising number of double figure barbel as does the Calder just over the border in West Yorks. There are some escapee river carp pushing 20lb too on some stretches and chub to 6lb here and there. The upper reaches of these rivers hold grayling and trout that offers better fishing than some day ticket waters and are far less crowded.

Some of the old abandoned canals too were worth exploring. By cycling or walking along the old towpaths I found loads of little places holding specimen fish that had never seen an angler in decades.

I would never lay claim that this area is the best in the UK, far from it. But there are some hidden gems that don't receive the same exposure to angling yet offer cracking fishing.
 

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You're obviously in a world of your own. I'll leave you to it.


Flatter first, destroy utterly if the flattery and the offers of being included "in" and part of "our gang" don't work - that's what my old school taught me. But then it and others like it knew the source material very very well...


"Men ought either to be indulged or utterly destroyed, for if you merely offend them they take vengeance, but if you injure them greatly they are unable to retaliate, so that the injury done to a man ought to be such that vengeance cannot be feared."

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Oh dear Paul , back to your old self - hollow threats and references to the "general herd"


No, benny, but it is interesting to see that we're always - always - only one intelligently written, pertinent and non-insulting posting away from the politicians, the ideologues, the insulters and the arguers appearing here and having yet another go. Very telling.
 
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