Beware the lost art of Fishing

adders · Sep 29, 2013

Having fished on and off for nearly 40 years, a lot of off time in that 4o years I have seen many changes to coarse fishing, mainly carp fishing

Every time I have packed it all in was due to spending too much time just sitting behind a rod pod with multiple rods in the hope I catch maybe one fish !

It seems that this is fun ??

Since returning back to fishing and starting again buying tackle I have tried to settle on simple quality gear for float, feeder and a single light carp rod

My aim is to enjoy my fishing being active and not just sitting and staring / listening for bite alarms.

Catching 5lb carp on light tackle can be very rewarding and is an active way to fish, I would assume dragging in a 30lb carp on a heavy carp rod doesn't give the same thrill or maybe it does ?

My point is keeping things simple and back to basics is a rewarding way to fish and seldom leaves you bored. I must refrain from the attraction of the all the carp gear because I see if I spend all my fishing time behind a rod pod I will get bored and pack it in again !

chefster · Sep 29, 2013

Throwing out rods and sitting behind bite alarms,waiting for a fish to swim along is hardly rewarding fishing anyway!..working several swims and rotating them,and trying to get the most out of a given peg.Or roving along the river trying different swims,is a lot more rewarding.....The new breed of anglers seems to be all the latest carp gear,multiple rods,etc absolutely no watercraft involved......Chef

sam vimes · Sep 29, 2013

chefster said:
Throwing out rods and sitting behind bite alarms,waiting for a fish to swim along is hardly rewarding fishing anyway!..working several swims and rotating them,and trying to get the most out of a given peg.Or roving along the river trying different swims,is a lot more rewarding.....The new breed of anglers seems to be all the latest carp gear,multiple rods,etc absolutely no watercraft involved......Chef

It's very easy to think that, and there's no denying that it can be true for some carpers. However, there can be a lot more to it than there seems. I'll play the full on carping game at times, but I wouldn't dream of do nothing but. It's amazing how much effort has gone in to allow me to be successful when sitting around doing "nothing".

I've had people mock how much time I spend walking round, watching the water and observing others. They then think I'm lucky when I get the results that have eluded them. Strange that the more non-fishing effort I put in, the luckier I get. I'd reckon on spending almost a third of my fishing time without a bait in the water.

Chris Hammond ( RSPB ACA PAC} · Sep 29, 2013

It beats me how anyone thinks they have the right to tell another angler what he/she should or shouldn't find rewarding tbh. Angling is a million different things to a million different people.

If an angler wants to do nothing more than cast a couple of carp rods out and kick back, as long as he is adhering to the rules and observing responsible angling practice who is anyone else to tell him he isn't fishing 'properly'?

And we wonder why there's no unity among anglers eh?

chefster · Sep 29, 2013

sam vimes said:
It's very easy to think that, and there's no denying that it can be true for some carpers. However, there can be a lot more to it than there seems. I'll play the full on carping game at times, but I wouldn't dream of do nothing but. It's amazing how much effort has gone in to allow me to be successful when sitting around doing "nothing". I've had people mock how much time I spend walking round, watching the water and observing others. They then think I'm lucky when I get the results that have eluded them. Strange that the more non-fishing effort I put in, the luckier I get. I'd reckon on spending almost a third of my fishing time without a bait in the water.

I,m not referring to the likes of yourself Sam,you obviously have a lot of watercraft,do you,re homework and pinpoint location of target species,i,m thinking more about the "Instant Carper"=Buy all the latest gear without really having a clue....Whilst i,m not obviously against having all the latest gear as you know,and as you say angling is something you have to work hard at-For me ,in my fishing,that means not sitting still for 2 minutes in a match or even a pleasure session..Gaz

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Chris Hammond ( RSPB ACA PAC} said:
It beats me how anyone thinks they have the right to tell another angler what he/she should or shouldn't find rewarding tbh. Angling is a million different things to a million different people.

If an angler wants to do nothing more than cast a couple of carp rods out and kick back, as long as he is adhering to the rules and observing responsible angling practice who is anyone else to tell him he isn't fishing 'properly'?

And we wonder why there's no unity among anglers eh?

Is that supposed to be aimed at me,?

I wasnt telling anyone What they should find rewarding ,i was merely putting my point over-or are you telling me that i cant??:wh

adders · Sep 29, 2013

Chris Hammond ( RSPB ACA PAC} said:
It beats me how anyone thinks they have the right to tell another angler what he/she should or shouldn't find rewarding tbh. Angling is a million different things to a million different people.

If an angler wants to do nothing more than cast a couple of carp rods out and kick back, as long as he is adhering to the rules and observing responsible angling practice who is anyone else to tell him he isn't fishing 'properly'?

And we wonder why there's no unity among anglers eh?

I wasn't suggesting what was right or wrong, more a personal observation that the massive appeal to carp fish, especially for the new angler also may be responsible to why many get bored of fishing and pack it in.

For me this is what happened, I ended up thinking float rod fishing was too basic and I must catch only the 20lb+ fish how wrong was I

If you enjoy fishing in what ever form I think its easy to drift away from why we sit by the waters edge for many hours.

I love carp fishing but in some ways I do not like they way it has changed the simplistic approach to catching a fish ( my personal discovery )

Chris Hammond ( RSPB ACA PAC} · Sep 29, 2013

"Is that supposed to be aimed at me..."

It was aimed at anyone who thinks their style of fishing is somehow superior to others, and yes, that is the impression you give me, although you are far from the only person who appears to have that outlook. if I've got that wrong then I apologise. Are you telling me that your post wasn't scornful of other people's preferred outlook on fishing then?

chub_on_the_block · Sep 29, 2013

Any single species or single method fishing would become, to me, rather boring after a while. Groundhog day stuff. I could even get tired of hauling in half a dozen tench in a dawn session laying on in the margins by some pads...but as that happens to me about as often as having mermaids disturb my swim i am not tired of it yet.

jambo1uk · Sep 29, 2013

After a break of about 10 yrs I jave gor back into fishing as step son wanted to have a bash I used to fish for small stuff a tench being a good fish and carp being way out of the price bracket back then anyway seems things have changed I got a local licence for ohr council ponds aiming for tench got perch lol reedy as hell found a decent local day ticket and caught my first carp on normal gear nothing great max carp in there is 10 lb it was a great feeling as I thought I had a tench I only kniw what I did back then and now its boily this rig that yet at the day ticket pretty much everything is caught on corn bread or meat guess its down to how to spirt ha changed with al the big fisheries glad the one I use is like the way it is as I never know what I will catch

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cg74 · Sep 29, 2013

chefster said:
Throwing out rods and sitting behind bite alarms,waiting for a fish to swim along is hardly rewarding fishing anyway!..working several swims and rotating them,and trying to get the most out of a given peg.Or roving along the river trying different swims,is a lot more rewarding.....The new breed of anglers seems to be all the latest carp gear,multiple rods,etc absolutely no watercraft involved......Chef

Nice bit of stereotyping.....

john step · Sep 29, 2013

As they say,"variety is the spice of life". I have had an enjoyable summer tench fishing but now they are getting harder to tempt I will not sit for any more blank sessions just in case of one more tench. I have now had a couple of days after roach and it is quite refreshing to use lighter tackle for a change. Roll on the autumn and some perching. Hope I will have time to fit some piking in!

chefster · Sep 29, 2013

cg74 said:
Nice bit of stereotyping.....

Thanks mate,glad you appreciated it

terry m · Sep 29, 2013

adders said:
....... I would assume dragging in a 30lb carp on a heavy carp rod doesn't give the same thrill or maybe it does ?

Adders, as some have said it is horses for courses. If you don't like a certain style or method then don't do it.

But, whilst I do not want to get all evangelical about it, the notion that catching a 5lb carp on a float rod is eclipses catching a 30lb carp on carp gear is a notion that I would not subscribe to.

binka · Sep 29, 2013

I like the variety of species and diversity of methods, I tend to get hung up on particular things for prolonged periods though and would love to have the time to be able to plan and target more in advance.

Strange thing is that, although I've had a few nice ones I cannot ever recall specifically targeting carp?

cg74 · Sep 29, 2013

chefster said:
Thanks mate,glad you appreciated it

No worries.

nicepix · Sep 29, 2013

chefster said:
Throwing out rods and sitting behind bite alarms,waiting for a fish to swim along is hardly rewarding fishing anyway!..working several swims and rotating them,and trying to get the most out of a given peg.Or roving along the river trying different swims,is a lot more rewarding.....The new breed of anglers seems to be all the latest carp gear,multiple rods,etc absolutely no watercraft involved......Chef

Strange how many think that carp anglers just chuck their baits out and sit back waiting for a bite with no watercraft of skill whatsoever.

I suppose that you could also jump to the conclusion that a match angler is only any good at catching tame fish, and what watercraft is there in drawing a peg number out of a hat? :w :wh

For my part I enjoy catching small fish on traditional methods on old tackle as much as larger ones using alarms and modern gear. There is plenty of room for all types of anglers.

chefster · Sep 29, 2013

nicepix said:
Strange how many think that carp anglers just chuck their baits out and sit back waiting for a bite with no watercraft of skill whatsoever. I suppose that you could also jump to the conclusion that a match angler is only any good at catching tame fish, and what watercraft is there in drawing a peg number out of a hat? :w :wh

For my part I enjoy catching small fish on traditional methods on old tackle as much as larger ones using alarms and modern gear. There is plenty of room for all types of anglers.

Did you bother to take the time to read my second post-or are you just jumping to conclusions about what i think as well

Chris Hammond ( RSPB ACA PAC} · Sep 29, 2013

chefster said:
Did you bother to take the time to read my second post-or are you just jumping to conclusions about what i think as well

I've re-read your first post and you clearly ARE having a pop at other people's fishing. If you were giving us a personal outlook why didn't you refer to yourself rather than make a sweeping statement about what is and what isn't 'rewarding'?

You then go on in the same tone in your next post, 'Instant carpers...' etc.

The funny thing is that when I grew up learning about fishing the ability to 'sit still for two minutes' was considered a vital part of specialist angling.

cg74 · Sep 29, 2013

adders said:
My aim is to enjoy my fishing being active and not just sitting and staring / listening for bite alarms.

And enjoyment is what it's all about.

adders said:
Catching 5lb carp on light tackle can be very rewarding and is an active way to fish, I would assume dragging in a 30lb carp on a heavy carp rod doesn't give the same thrill or maybe it does ?

Personally speaking, catching a 5lb carp would never bring as much of a thrill as lifting my net on a 30, irrelevant of what tackle is used. But really you'll need to catch a few 30's too know.

nicepix · Sep 29, 2013

adders said:
Having fished on and off for nearly 40 years, a lot of off time in that 4o years I have seen many changes to coarse fishing, mainly carp fishing

Every time I have packed it all in was due to spending too much time just sitting behind a rod pod with multiple rods in the hope I catch maybe one fish !

It seems that this is fun ??

Since returning back to fishing and starting again buying tackle I have tried to settle on simple quality gear for float, feeder and a single light carp rod

My aim is to enjoy my fishing being active and not just sitting and staring / listening for bite alarms.

Catching 5lb carp on light tackle can be very rewarding and is an active way to fish, I would assume dragging in a 30lb carp on a heavy carp rod doesn't give the same thrill or maybe it does ?

My point is keeping things simple and back to basics is a rewarding way to fish and seldom leaves you bored. I must refrain from the attraction of the all the carp gear because I see if I spend all my fishing time behind a rod pod I will get bored and pack it in again !

What I tend to do is put the carp and / or catfish rods out on alarms and then fish with a float rod or light ledger rod alongside them. That way it keeps the interest up. Yesterday I only had one run each on the two big rods (both missed

) but I got shed loads of roach on a waggler fished on a float rod just to one side of the swim.

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