wasteful tw*ts
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Neneman Nick
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Absolutely disgusting !!! The captain should be prosecuted !!!
Mr Cholmondeley-Corker (PaSC)
Senior Member
Disgusting - yet it is going on all the time.
If they catch it then it should be taken for food. What's the point in throwing it back if its dead.
Similarly, If they catch more than than their quota they throw back DEAD what they can't take. This is why quotas don't work. On the one hand we need quotas to limit the catch on the other hand the the fish are still caught and killed andyway even if they're not brought home.
If they catch it then it should be taken for food. What's the point in throwing it back if its dead.
Similarly, If they catch more than than their quota they throw back DEAD what they can't take. This is why quotas don't work. On the one hand we need quotas to limit the catch on the other hand the the fish are still caught and killed andyway even if they're not brought home.
Wobbly Face (As Per Ed)
Well-known member
The captain blames EU quotas. Surely, anyone in their right mind would have stopped fishing once they had hauled in the first net and realised what fish they were catching and the quota for that fish.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
Guest
What an utter and complete waste of natural resources! This is a terrible crime, against not only nature and the environment, but against man.
Who sanctions this? The EU?
Who the hell are they? We should demand immediate relinquishment of our membership of the EU and the people who formulate such rules should be jailed.
I'll bet b*****d Brown has signed up to this sort of thing.
Who sanctions this? The EU?
Who the hell are they? We should demand immediate relinquishment of our membership of the EU and the people who formulate such rules should be jailed.
I'll bet b*****d Brown has signed up to this sort of thing.
Ray Roberts
Well-known member
How else are the number of fish taken to be limited if we don't have quota's?
Greedy fishermen are nothing new. Some years ago I was shark fishing out of Looe in Cornwall. There had been a recent incident with foreign trawler-men cutting through the nets of an English trawler. I mentioned this to our skipper and expected the usual reply regarding foreign fishermen but to my surprise he said he didn't blame them in the least and that the trawler had upwards of seven miles of net out and it was unreasonable to expect them to take a fourteen mile plus detour in order to avoid their nets. He then went on to clue me up on a variety of excesses carried out by British based trawler-men. At around the same time there was a big fuss made of Russian factory ships taking huge fish stocks from our waters. What did not appear prominently in the press was that these fish were being sold to the ships by our fishermen.
By the way,I don't think it was Brown who paved the way and signed us up to the EU.
Greedy fishermen are nothing new. Some years ago I was shark fishing out of Looe in Cornwall. There had been a recent incident with foreign trawler-men cutting through the nets of an English trawler. I mentioned this to our skipper and expected the usual reply regarding foreign fishermen but to my surprise he said he didn't blame them in the least and that the trawler had upwards of seven miles of net out and it was unreasonable to expect them to take a fourteen mile plus detour in order to avoid their nets. He then went on to clue me up on a variety of excesses carried out by British based trawler-men. At around the same time there was a big fuss made of Russian factory ships taking huge fish stocks from our waters. What did not appear prominently in the press was that these fish were being sold to the ships by our fishermen.
By the way,I don't think it was Brown who paved the way and signed us up to the EU.
Absolutely sickening behavior,unfortunately tho as long as money is involved then none of them will give a S**t,that's the joke of a society we live in.
Reminds me of the old Cree Indian saying "Only when the tree has been felled,the last animal killed and the last fish caught will man realise that money cant be eaten."
Bring it on,I think the sooner the Earth gets rid of it infestation of Humans the better of it will be,the human race is a f******g dissgrace.
Reminds me of the old Cree Indian saying "Only when the tree has been felled,the last animal killed and the last fish caught will man realise that money cant be eaten."
Bring it on,I think the sooner the Earth gets rid of it infestation of Humans the better of it will be,the human race is a f******g dissgrace.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
Guest
Best thing for the human race to do is reduce its numbers down to about 50,000 and keep them there.
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Wolfman Woody
Guest
<blockquote class=quoteheader>steveo wrote (see)</blockquote><blockquote class=quote>the human race is a f******g dissgrace.</blockquote>
I resemble that remark.
As do you, hopefully.
I resemble that remark.
As do you, hopefully.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
Guest
I have it on reasonable authority that the next government, which will not be led by Brown by the way, will start telling the EU where to get off.
The British people have had a guts full of being dictated to from Brussels. If I had my way I would get us out of the EU toot sweet, create a 500 mile no fishing zone to foriegn vessels and sink any that came into the zone.
Liz I would soon sort them out!
The British people have had a guts full of being dictated to from Brussels. If I had my way I would get us out of the EU toot sweet, create a 500 mile no fishing zone to foriegn vessels and sink any that came into the zone.
Liz I would soon sort them out!
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Colin North, the one and only
Guest
I've seen it happen at Dungie, wherea local trawler has held a couple of hundred yards offshore, whilst the crew discard unwanted and undersized fish, which then wash up on the beach. 6 and 7 ounce schoolies, all sorts.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
Guest
Seriously guys, if there is anything that makes me angry it is actions like this.
Every way you look at it, it is totally and completely immoral. Goverments that sanction this require removing from power by force and those that have put such laws into place should be summarily shot!
Every way you look at it, it is totally and completely immoral. Goverments that sanction this require removing from power by force and those that have put such laws into place should be summarily shot!
Morespiders
Senior Member
Bastards have taken it off now. watched it before was showing a mate.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
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Bill Cox
Guest
Ron your at it again aren't you , never miss an opportunity to spout misinformed ill considered crap do you. Anyone with any sense can see the wastefulness of the situation but what would you do to prevent it? Its YOUR system thats causing it Ron not socialist policy but capitalist policy where money is all important, short term gain will win everytime over conservation and loss of earnings. The tories took us into europe and the tories are as committed as ever to staying in. How you can blame Brown for a policy decided on by the whole of the EU is beyond me. I will give you a constructive suggestion instead of just scoring points off the government. Whatever they catch they must land, regardless of species. If it is within there quotas then they can sell it if not then the government confiscate it and process it into fertiliser and give it to the farmers as part of there subsidies. That would save the waste and save the taxpayer money on subsidy. And you can bet your life the trawlermen would be more careful about where they shoot there nets if they won't get paid for the catch.
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Ron 'The Hat' Clay (ACA)
Guest
Well now it's you who is talking crap Bill. You are behaving like a typical Lefty!
I am fully aware that it was the Tories who took us into Europe. And If you think that I think that the sun shines out of Cameron's assole, you are wrong.
At least I write letters to the Tory Party and ask them whatthey are going todo when they get in. And you will not create wealth by using socialist policies. What you do create is horrors like the Berlin Wall.
Brown whould be impeached if you ask me.
I am fully aware that it was the Tories who took us into Europe. And If you think that I think that the sun shines out of Cameron's assole, you are wrong.
At least I write letters to the Tory Party and ask them whatthey are going todo when they get in. And you will not create wealth by using socialist policies. What you do create is horrors like the Berlin Wall.
Brown whould be impeached if you ask me.
Ron for Prime Minister
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Yep Woody I kinda lost it back there and Im a Human but im not proud of it.Gets me mad and very saddened when I see what is happeneing all over the Earth in the name of money and progress. /forum/smilies/sad_smiley.gif
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Yep Woody I kinda lost it back there and Im a Human but im not proud of it.Gets me mad and very saddened when I see what is happeneing all over the Earth in the name of money and progress. /forum/smilies/sad_smiley.gif
Ray Roberts
Well-known member
Bill has my vote too.
I have also been to Dungie when the trawlers have come so close to the shore that I could have cast onto their decks.
It wasn't socialists who over fished our waters and destroyed theonce abundant shoals of Herring that surrounded our country. I am afraid it was greedy short-sighted trawler men. Then they did the same with Cod.
At one time I was a keen Sea Angler, but I gave up after diminishing returns made it not worthwhile.When you went out on a boat trip the amount of nets you passed made you wonder how on earth any fish made it through our inshore waters.
We should be looking at providing more nursery areas in coastal waters, create more man made reefs and as Bill said make them land whatever they catch and then count that towards their quota's.
I have also been to Dungie when the trawlers have come so close to the shore that I could have cast onto their decks.
It wasn't socialists who over fished our waters and destroyed theonce abundant shoals of Herring that surrounded our country. I am afraid it was greedy short-sighted trawler men. Then they did the same with Cod.
At one time I was a keen Sea Angler, but I gave up after diminishing returns made it not worthwhile.When you went out on a boat trip the amount of nets you passed made you wonder how on earth any fish made it through our inshore waters.
We should be looking at providing more nursery areas in coastal waters, create more man made reefs and as Bill said make them land whatever they catch and then count that towards their quota's.
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Bully
Guest
I think, to a certain degree they, and others, are missing the point.
First the Captain. What choice does he have? Any of you lot fancychucking in your wages over point of principle? And what is not clear from the original post is if the fish are within the sizes allowed. If not he has no choice but to dump them under EU law. This law is of course completely ignored by many countries, such as Spain.
Second. It is absolutely the fault of any Government who agrees and backs such policies, either those in power at the time, or subsequent Governments. The truth of the whole situation is that the whole EU process is fundamentally flawed.
Third. Quota systems, and especially those "underpinned" by metrics such as fish size, are flawed, especially as the techniques used to catch fish are not mandated, and therefore cannot fully enable the small fish to be released.
The only way to preserve stocks, in my opinion, is to do some form of "rotation" system, much the same as farmers did before fertilizers. Leaving areas "fallow", such as (I think) the Icelanders have done, and introducing more stringent rules over the methods used are a much better way to ensure a properly managed system.
First the Captain. What choice does he have? Any of you lot fancychucking in your wages over point of principle? And what is not clear from the original post is if the fish are within the sizes allowed. If not he has no choice but to dump them under EU law. This law is of course completely ignored by many countries, such as Spain.
Second. It is absolutely the fault of any Government who agrees and backs such policies, either those in power at the time, or subsequent Governments. The truth of the whole situation is that the whole EU process is fundamentally flawed.
Third. Quota systems, and especially those "underpinned" by metrics such as fish size, are flawed, especially as the techniques used to catch fish are not mandated, and therefore cannot fully enable the small fish to be released.
The only way to preserve stocks, in my opinion, is to do some form of "rotation" system, much the same as farmers did before fertilizers. Leaving areas "fallow", such as (I think) the Icelanders have done, and introducing more stringent rules over the methods used are a much better way to ensure a properly managed system.
Bryan Baron 2
Well-known member
If there in size then surly he can be done. Its the same as flytipping.
They should be made to sell what they catch.
They should be made to sell what they catch.