steph mckenzie
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Do they really matter that much these days to most Anglers?
Fish records Breaking
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They don't matter much to me. I guess if i was all consumed with a specific species of fish it may be different but i'm happy with any old fish.
What does annoy me is the pursuit of spawn carrying Tench.
What does annoy me is the pursuit of spawn carrying Tench.
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sam vimes
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I quite like to see the records broken once in a while, but I don't place too much importance in them. I couldn't care less who it is that actually catches the records.
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It does puzzle me how this seems to be acceptable practice, for certain species but not others. Pike are similar, many actively targeting them in February/March, knowing that a big female will be full of spawn and at maximum weight.
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It does puzzle me how this seems to be acceptable practice, for certain species but not others. Pike are similar, many actively targeting them in February/March, knowing that a big female will be full of spawn and at maximum weight.
tikka
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Doesn't bother me, as long as I'm catching fish I'm happy.
steph mckenzie
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Yes, i guess that certain long standing Records would perhaps get more interest than usual, or something that is just out of the ordinary.
It does seem that these days certain fish records are not only broken regularly and by the odd 1lb or even ounces, but, they are often expected to be broken again not long afterwards.
For me, this does take the edge off of the excitement of it all for me.
Spawn carrying fish, certainly shouldn't count IMO.
It does seem that these days certain fish records are not only broken regularly and by the odd 1lb or even ounces, but, they are often expected to be broken again not long afterwards.
For me, this does take the edge off of the excitement of it all for me.
Spawn carrying fish, certainly shouldn't count IMO.
richiekelly
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Never bothered me, particularly when often its the same fish breaking national or river records, its nice to see a new fish do it but then the circus descends on it until its caught again at an ounce or two over what it was caught at before.( seems to happen with suspicious regularity)
No fish should be entertained as a record if it is carrying spawn, it's illegal to fish for gravid fish so why should a gravid fish be accepted as a record?
All of us have probably caught fish that are carrying spawn at some time or other by accident but to target fish knowing they are likely to be carrying spawn is wrong. just goes to show what a cock up the closed season is. (not trying to start a discussion on the CS.)
No fish should be entertained as a record if it is carrying spawn, it's illegal to fish for gravid fish so why should a gravid fish be accepted as a record?
All of us have probably caught fish that are carrying spawn at some time or other by accident but to target fish knowing they are likely to be carrying spawn is wrong. just goes to show what a cock up the closed season is. (not trying to start a discussion on the CS.)
robtherake
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I've often thought about this - on a personal level - would I report the fish (assuming that piece of good fortune was mine.) Hmm...it would only invite the attentions of the very people being (rightly) denigrated here, and probably ruin that piece of water for the many, at the expense of the fish as well as the fishing.
I'd like to think I'd be able to keep it under my hat, but who knows, should that situation arise? That kind of attention isn't my bag, though, and I already have more gear than I can comfortably carry so the prizes on offer in the weeklies are no real incentive.
Assuming it was the kind of water where records do tumble, I reckon it's the right thing to do. We anglers thrive on such dreams: it fires our imagination - that next bite could be the one....
I'd like to think I'd be able to keep it under my hat, but who knows, should that situation arise? That kind of attention isn't my bag, though, and I already have more gear than I can comfortably carry so the prizes on offer in the weeklies are no real incentive.
Assuming it was the kind of water where records do tumble, I reckon it's the right thing to do. We anglers thrive on such dreams: it fires our imagination - that next bite could be the one....
You do not have to fish for coarse fish in what was the close season on stillwaters this reduces the chance and was the reason for the close season in the first place.
richiekelly
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I know of 2 river records that have been kept very quiet, on the other hand I have seen the same fish claimed as a river record 3/4 times.
chub_on_the_block
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Chasing spawn-bound fish to break records is the unethical byproduct of chasing record fish weights. On the continent dont they go by fish length rather than weight? eg i had a brace of 30cm Roach or whatever. Theres a few areas i can think of where length measurements are important, usually in inches mind, but it would be a very different way of appreciating fish sizes.
richiekelly
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Can anyone name 50% of the uk freshwater records without googleing or whatever? I know I cant.
If others cant would they know if they caught say a record gudgeon that they had a record?
If others cant would they know if they caught say a record gudgeon that they had a record?
steph mckenzie
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Personally, i couldn't name one record fish with the correct weight. I've never targeted one to memorise it. I might have been able to do so if i had just read it somewhere though.
If i were set on targeting one species in particular, then i might make knowing a bit more of an option.
If i were set on targeting one species in particular, then i might make knowing a bit more of an option.
barbelboi
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As posted by Blanker, I also know of a few records from local waters that have never been publicised - I'm sure that many others also know of different ones which probably adds up to many record fish never being made generally known.
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Wouldn't even know how to "claim" a record these days and even less what the records are. As has been posted there are numerous big fish out there that are just kept quiet for various reasons not least so as not to attract the circus performing fame hungry look at me specialists.
The deliberate targeting of spawn laden fish is abhorrent but appears to be perfectly acceptable to some in this day and age, and is one exasperated since the Close season was abolished. Anglers, for want of a better word, are seen in the press, on websites and on blogs etc with heavily laden fish and exulted as some sort of genius seeking notoriety and sponsorship as a big fish angler.
The deliberate targeting of spawn laden fish is abhorrent but appears to be perfectly acceptable to some in this day and age, and is one exasperated since the Close season was abolished. Anglers, for want of a better word, are seen in the press, on websites and on blogs etc with heavily laden fish and exulted as some sort of genius seeking notoriety and sponsorship as a big fish angler.
steph mckenzie
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Surely catching the same big fish all the time, must become very tedious, especially if it's the same people doing the catching?
nicepix
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When I was a teenager I knew all the freshwater and some of the sea records; weights, captors, dates, off by heart. These days I wouldn't have a clue what the records are.
To be honest, I'm uncomfortable with all the HNV enhanced bloaters that you see being paraded on trophy shots. The way that long standing records of carp, tench and bream have been increased almost weekly makes a mockery of the records. It's like those farmers who keep cattle confined and force fed to maximise weight gain.
To be honest, I'm uncomfortable with all the HNV enhanced bloaters that you see being paraded on trophy shots. The way that long standing records of carp, tench and bream have been increased almost weekly makes a mockery of the records. It's like those farmers who keep cattle confined and force fed to maximise weight gain.
slaphead
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Turning this slightly, I'm sure most commercial fishery owners would encourage the publicity surrounding a big/record catch to attract more anglers.
Personally, I am not too bothered about weights mainly because most of my catches wouldn't register on my scales.
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Personally, I am not too bothered about weights mainly because most of my catches wouldn't register on my scales.
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richiekelly
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I am sure they would even if the fishery doesn't contain the "advertised fish" it can attract custom.
I was in a syndicate many years ago and the syndicate owner showed us photos of fish in there, we found out 2 months after we joined and had caught nothing bigger than 18lbs that the big fish had been sold off, fortunately my mate who has "a way with words" and our money was returned.
I was in a syndicate many years ago and the syndicate owner showed us photos of fish in there, we found out 2 months after we joined and had caught nothing bigger than 18lbs that the big fish had been sold off, fortunately my mate who has "a way with words" and our money was returned.