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Anyone been catching after EA stocking? various locations in uk few years back

unsure about license requirements, ie paying extra to fish for them with a migratory trout and salmon license when not migratory fish.

I get the odd one accidently but must admit have concerns about being collared for only having a course/trout license. Potential big fines etc
 
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Pure put-'n'-take pay-for-play Zoo Fish that were tried by some stillwater fishery owners some years ago in an attempt to re-tickle the jaded palates of their rainbow-weary punters - a mere alternative to instant double-figure trout. The REAL non-migratory salmon of Maine, USA (plus those long naturalized in the Traful River of northern Patagonia, Argentina, a few of which I have caught), however, are quite another matter - fine, truly wild fish that can go ballistic.
 

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Have you any experience of huchen Paul? I ask because in old fishing book of mine, it mentions that they were once introduced to the river Thames. In the book, huchen were referred to as non-migratory salmon. I had a look on Wikipedia, where they are classified as a relative of the salmon.
 

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Huchen? Nope. Though I knew some Austrian anglers who fished for them. Large, certainly, but not particularly great fighters - reason why I turned down the offer of a summer scouting their cousins, taimen, in Mongolia in 1990. A British firm that had the "in" there (and much of northern Russia aside from the famous Kola Peninsula) after Soviet Russia fell apart in 1989 offered me helicopter, cook and a couple of local men and horses for three months....

Turned it down: did Goliath Tigerfish instead.

The Huchen introduced to the Thames: never seen again.
 

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Whatever happened to the fabled "precocious non-migratory salmon" from the 1980s.
These were supposed to be 'fertile' cock fish that hadn't migrated. I vaguely remember articles about them at the time - they would ghost up on the happy couple and introduce their contribution into the mix!
The theories at the time were that these little beggars would be:
- infertile since they hadn't gone through the migration-based maturing process,
- more fertile since they were in their prime and weren't knackered from swimming 1000s of miles in dodgy water,
- anti-fertile/contraceptive since their milt would actively prevent the potency of the migrated cock's milt.
The story disappeared before any of the 'issues' :confused: were resolved.
Does anyone remember what the outcomes of studies were? and what happened to these fish?
 

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The precocious Atlantic salmon referred to above might be the ones that have been around for a long long time and which I witnessed getting up to no good on the Hants Avon in a couple of winters in the early 1970s: pre-smolting male salmon parr of no more than 4 or 5 inches getting in on the spawning act on the gravel redds, darting in past the big adult males stationed beside an ova-extruding ("hen") female, doing their milty little business and so fertilising her eggs. Cheeky monkeys.
 
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