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This is a dedicated thread for discussing article: Nigel Farage Wants to Lure Anglers to Britain
Nigel Farage Wants to Lure Anglers to Britain
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thecrow
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"Doing the same as Florida" I don't think so, mans a fool if he thinks that would happen!
laguna
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I dont know about Florida, but concrete tires around the coast might be a good thing.
So would an artificial reef constructed from donated concrete blocks where each block contains the ashes of dead angler..
Memorial Reefs I think they are called in the US.
But then I suppose we will start doing it in 30 or more years time
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beerweasel
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We should build the reefs in and around offshore wind farms as commercial drag gear fishing is not allowed.
Perhaps if the fish stocks start to recover from the obscene E.U fishing policy the cormorants will go back to sea.
Perhaps if the fish stocks start to recover from the obscene E.U fishing policy the cormorants will go back to sea.
S-Kippy
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Wait a minute.....wasn't that Farage bloke at the last Lower Itchen Fish In ??
nicepix
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Why stop at the west country? There is still an annual run of tuna up the North Sea every summer that nobody fished for and there is no reason why halibut could not feature as a target species. There are anglers going out of Whitby catching enough to make it worthwhile investing in some proper research.
"we should place some old car tyres and concrete bits on the sea bed and we would have a whole eco-system thing with lots of fish"
Yup, good idea Nige' them eco-system things are good for fish . . . . . . . . . and the more concrete bits the better, eh?
Ye Gods, give me strength!
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Erm, no. that was his Siamese twin brother, at birth they were joined at the head. After separation the one in your picture got . . . . . . . . .
the brain!
Yup, good idea Nige' them eco-system things are good for fish . . . . . . . . . and the more concrete bits the better, eh?
Ye Gods, give me strength!
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Wait a minute.....wasn't that Farage bloke at the last Lower Itchen Fish In ??
Erm, no. that was his Siamese twin brother, at birth they were joined at the head. After separation the one in your picture got . . . . . . . . .
the brain!
geoffmaynard
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I think Florida has 140+ artificial reefs using old car tyres and other assorted junk. The fish don't care, they create habitat out of it same as they do with the ship wrecks off our coast. It's habitat the trawlers can't fish either. Well worth doing and several people have been advocating this for years. I'm all for it - there's bu6ger all there now so it's not likely to screw anything up, the damage has already been done.
peter crabtree
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Wait a minute.....wasn't that Farage bloke at the last Lower Itchen Fish In ??
OK I am Nigel Garage..
I have actually changed my hairstyle, carried on drinking beer and smoking fags and have enrolled with an exclusive "Lookalike Agency" in Park lane....
Due to the terms and conditions I am unable to comment further..
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binka
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Yup... not only car tyres but under the heading of assorted junk you can also add railway subway carriages
Surreal Photos of Subway Cars Being Thrown Into the Ocean [Slideshow] | Co.Design | business + design
The injudicious placement of sub sea structures can, and does cause alterations to tidal regimes and flows.
Take a look at what has happened to the sea, and the aquatic life, around The Palm in Dubai and the Pearl in Qatar.
You simply cannot indiscriminately submerge "old car tyres and concrete bits on the sea bed" and expect anything other than a disaster.
The man clearly has little or no idea of what is required, environmentally or otherwise, and is simply playing gesture politics in order to conjure-up more sound bites for campaign purposes.
Any comparison between the fishing in Florida and that around the coastline of the UK is tenuous in the extreme, and that is before you begin to compare far more important other factors such as: the climate, other attractions, hotel prices, food and incidentals.
Hopefully not only will anglers see through this, but the public in general.
PS: these comments are made as this is considered to be a topic of "angling politics" and is therefore permissible.
Take a look at what has happened to the sea, and the aquatic life, around The Palm in Dubai and the Pearl in Qatar.
You simply cannot indiscriminately submerge "old car tyres and concrete bits on the sea bed" and expect anything other than a disaster.
The man clearly has little or no idea of what is required, environmentally or otherwise, and is simply playing gesture politics in order to conjure-up more sound bites for campaign purposes.
Any comparison between the fishing in Florida and that around the coastline of the UK is tenuous in the extreme, and that is before you begin to compare far more important other factors such as: the climate, other attractions, hotel prices, food and incidentals.
Hopefully not only will anglers see through this, but the public in general.
PS: these comments are made as this is considered to be a topic of "angling politics" and is therefore permissible.
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laguna
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Not if a proper risk assessment is made and those alterations to tidal regimes and flows are positive, judiciously placed they could help prevent coastal erosion for example.
According to GOV.UK The UK produces around 55 million waste tyres a year.
However Farage's idea of filling tires with concrete is not economically or environmentally sound. A more practical waste management solution would be to fill tyre rims with rocks and stitch them shut around the seams.
I don't know what Defra's coastal erosion budget is (most of it is spend on flood prevention schemes, Coastal (local) authorities and the Environment Agency manage risks for coastal erosion.) but they also keep a small amount of money each year to deliver pilot projects and fund research and development. There is also the new Partnership funding for new and improved flood and coastal defence works which has brought forward £148 million in external co-funding for the 2011/12 to 2014/15 period.
geoffmaynard
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Whilst I agree with the rest of your post Peter, what about the wrecking we do off our coast. These are artificial reefs like it or not.
Wrecks do create a sort of an artificial reef but those were accidental occurrences as opposed to the "dumping old car tyres and concrete bits on the sea bed"
My objection is really more regarding the fact that he appears to be virtually clueless about the topic, as evidenced by his somewhat crass comments, and yet nonetheless sees it as a vote catching opportunity. Otherwise why even bother to mention that angling is the largest participant pass time.
I want a binding IN-OUT referendum sooner rather than later.
This government will fudge the issue as they and previous governments have done for the past twenty years or more.
If UKIP provide the lever to get us out of the EU I will vote for them as will thousands and thousands of other voters.
Nigel Farage is a breath of fresh air., yes a bit raw around the edges but thats far better than this present lot, many of whom have never had a proper job in their lives!
The potential of offshore windfarms to act as Marine Protected Areas has already been examined The potential of offshore windfarms to act as marine protected areas – A systematic review of current evidence
MPAs act as nursery areas for all species and the fishing in the areas surrounding such zones has always improved over time.
The huge advantages of Artificial Reefs has to be studied and experienced before it is condemned.
Comparison of the catch and fishing yield from an artificial reef system and neighbouring areas off Faro (Algarve, south Portugal)
On the reefs in the study above the effects on the tidal currents is insignificant except on the biggest tides when reefs at 30m will produce a 'rip' effect on the surface for a very short period.
No sandbanks or gullies were produced and certainly noticeable changes to the coastline.
To my knowledge the artificial reef systems of the southern Portuguese coast are the largest in Europe and were funded by the EU.
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This government will fudge the issue as they and previous governments have done for the past twenty years or more.
If UKIP provide the lever to get us out of the EU I will vote for them as will thousands and thousands of other voters.
Nigel Farage is a breath of fresh air., yes a bit raw around the edges but thats far better than this present lot, many of whom have never had a proper job in their lives!
The potential of offshore windfarms to act as Marine Protected Areas has already been examined The potential of offshore windfarms to act as marine protected areas – A systematic review of current evidence
MPAs act as nursery areas for all species and the fishing in the areas surrounding such zones has always improved over time.
The huge advantages of Artificial Reefs has to be studied and experienced before it is condemned.
Comparison of the catch and fishing yield from an artificial reef system and neighbouring areas off Faro (Algarve, south Portugal)
On the reefs in the study above the effects on the tidal currents is insignificant except on the biggest tides when reefs at 30m will produce a 'rip' effect on the surface for a very short period.
No sandbanks or gullies were produced and certainly noticeable changes to the coastline.
To my knowledge the artificial reef systems of the southern Portuguese coast are the largest in Europe and were funded by the EU.
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Cliff Hatton
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Peter...methinks you're just reluctant to reveal your opinion of Nigel Farage. How many of us DO have specialist knowledge of tide patterns? It's not as if he was Transport Secretary and has just been shuffled to Health is it! He's a bloke - a PROPER bloke, in my opinion - who felt the need to get political and who likes fishing. Give him credit for a (politically) original idea...can you imagine any one of the current soft-lipped, manicured nancy boys coming up with such a good, earthy suggestion?
My full opinion of Mr Farage is not for disclosure here as it would verge on breaking the T&C's of the FM Forum . . . . . . . .
Suffice it to say that I do not subscribe to gesture politics, (particularly his) and as for the person's angling credentials, well, other than a few lines on a political Party website I have no detailed knowledge, however the language (or is that lack of it?) used in his press release it certainly does not appear to ascribe any detailed knowledge of the subject . . . . . . . .
Suffice it to say that I do not subscribe to gesture politics, (particularly his) and as for the person's angling credentials, well, other than a few lines on a political Party website I have no detailed knowledge, however the language (or is that lack of it?) used in his press release it certainly does not appear to ascribe any detailed knowledge of the subject . . . . . . . .
stu_the_blank
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He's a politician, what did you expect?
Cliff Hatton
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Post retracted by CH...breach of FM etiquette? Doh! Let's just say 'I like Nige'.
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