Cannot find a suitable ledger rod

shane99 · Jan 11, 2015

Hi - I am looking for a couple or ledger rods, not quiver, that I intend to use for ledgering for Perch as I have recently joined a water that hold a few nice ones. My problem is I want a 1lb test curve with an all through action so every one involved has a fighting chance. I have used my 1.25lb barbel rods for this and just reeled in a 3lb strippy like a wet paper bag. I want to be able to at least have to play fish this size. Have looked at the Korum 3/4 lb xpert rod but it was like a broomstick with a quiver tip like action on the end. Didnt fancy it. I am even considering an 11' Drennan pellet waggler at the moment (???)

Any suggestions please

maverick 7 · Jan 11, 2015

I reckon you would be better off with a standard float rod...you will get the sensitivity you crave and the vast majority of these rods will easily handle a 3lb plus fish such as the one you mentioned.

The length of the rod would be your personal choice but I see no reason why you couldn't use a 13' unit.....that would also give you a very wide choice too. If you want it to be a "specimen" type rod then you could go for a 11' or 12' float rod...they do exist but I really can't see the point of that...a longer rod would give you more options without any handicaps.

Look for a rod with something like 3lb to 6lb line rating, maybe a little higher... that should be more than adequate for what you are fishing for. Although many anglers think line rating means nothing...I think it at least gives you some idea of it's capabilities.

Hope that helps you......

Maverick

sam vimes · Jan 11, 2015

Since the demise of the Fox Specialist rods, which had light quivers and an Avon tip of sub 1lb test, there's not been much out there that fits the bill. It wouldn't surprise me if there'll be a pellet waggler rod out there that would do just fine. Unfortunately, they vary so much that you'd need to get hands on to decide what might be right for you.

However, there is an alternative I've become aware of. I've never even clapped eyes on them, but the Tackle Box Darenth Valley Specialists are reputed to be just the ticket for the use you have in mind.

S-Kippy · Jan 11, 2015

shane99 said:
Hi - I am looking for a couple or ledger rods, not quiver, that I intend to use for ledgering for Perch as I have recently joined a water that hold a few nice ones. My problem is I want a 1lb test curve with an all through action so every one involved has a fighting chance. I have used my 1.25lb barbel rods for this and just reeled in a 3lb strippy like a wet paper bag. I want to be able to at least have to play fish this size. Have looked at the Korum 3/4 lb xpert rod but it was like a broomstick with a quiver tip like action on the end. Didnt fancy it. I am even considering an 11' Drennan pellet waggler at the moment (???)

Any suggestions please

That's by no means a bad idea. I have a Drennan PW and I've always thought it would make an absolutely cracking rod for perch. The TB Darenth looks interesting too and very good value but I'm very wary of these sort of rods for the reasons you gave.....often way too powerful for the alleged tc. Having flirted with exactly the same problem I would be giving my PW a go before I bought another rod. PW rods do vary enormously in action but the drennan is cock on for this sort of work IMO.

Peter Jacobs · Jan 11, 2015

Prompted to think on this from S-Kippy's post I too would give my Preston Pellet Waggler rod a good looking at for this purpose too before venturing into the retail market place . . . . . . .

cattyfatty · Jan 11, 2015

However, there is an alternative I've become aware of. I've never even clapped eyes on them, but the Tackle Box Darenth Valley Specialists are reputed to be just the ticket for the use you have in mind.[/QUOTE]

i have one off these rods and just what you looking for i have the 0.75lb one ,just brought mine for the same job as you want it for catching slivers and perch a really good playing rod . but they have brought out 11ft 1.25lb avon quiver rod and 12ft 1,75lb as well in the range they are around £70.
i paid £39.99 for the 0.75lb last year when they came out , some time this year will get 11ft 1.25lb well worth the money.

shane99 · Jan 12, 2015

Thankyou Catty,Maverick,Sam,Skippy & Peter

We all seem to be in the same place here, my one & only concern with a PW rod is the casting ability with a 1/2 ounce weight, of course I will use the lightest bomb I can get away with, the water I am on is quite small.

My next stop is to look at the Darent Valley rod, it would be rude not to

thanks again, & I will update this thread down the line.

keora · Jan 12, 2015

Have a look at the Drennan Series 7 Puddle Chucker Carp Feeder in the 11 ft length. They are nice rods, not too expensive and I think it should be good for large perch. Although the label suggests it's for carp, it's suitable for other species as well.

I've got the 12 ft version, designed for lines up to 8lb and I use it for chub and barbel fishing.

Series 7 Puddle Chucker 11ft Carp Feeder | Drennan Latest

S-Kippy · Jan 12, 2015

shane99 said:
my one & only concern with a PW rod is the casting ability with a 1/2 ounce weight, of course I will use the lightest bomb I can get away with, the water I am on is quite small..

What....that the PW hasn't got enough oomph to cope ? Trust me it has. I have lobbed a small method feeder around on my Drennan PW and it was more than capable. It wouldn't chuck a feeder 50 yards but it would happily lob a bomb as far as you ever might want it to.

Very versatlie rods those PW's. Think of them as "light Avons" and you're not far off. That said the tackle tart in me is dead interested in this Darenth rod.

shane99 · Jan 13, 2015

Thanks Skippy, thats what I wanted to know - that it copes with some weight for a cast, I feel a decision is near, just need to check out that Darenth rod !

robtherake · Jan 13, 2015

The Fox Duo Lite Specialist rod is perfect for the job, but they're out of production, so you'd have to go for a used example. Test curve is 8oz, which sounds low, but they have surprising power in the butt section; more than sufficient to deal with double-figure carpy nuisances.

They can also chuck a 30g method feeder a surprisingly long way without stress or apparent effort. Rapidly becoming my rod of choice for smaller species, where previously I'd have been using Fox Avon Duos in 1lb tc.

flightliner · Jan 13, 2015

shane99 said:
Hi - I am looking for a couple or ledger rods, not quiver, that I intend to use for ledgering for Perch as I have recently joined a water that hold a few nice ones. My problem is I want a 1lb test curve with an all through action so every one involved has a fighting chance. I have used my 1.25lb barbel rods for this and just reeled in a 3lb strippy like a wet paper bag. I want to be able to at least have to play fish this size. Have looked at the Korum 3/4 lb xpert rod but it was like a broomstick with a quiver tip like action on the end. Didnt fancy it. I am even considering an 11' Drennan pellet waggler at the moment (???)

Any suggestions please

Shakespeare pellet waggler- 11'-0 t/c approx 14oz, £29-0 -- cracking rod and should suit your needs- check them out

S-Kippy · Jan 13, 2015

shane99 said:
Thanks Skippy, thats what I wanted to know - that it copes with some weight for a cast, I feel a decision is near, just need to check out that Darenth rod !

Well if you do I'd be interested in what you think of that Darenth. If its any good then its a steal for the money. My wallet is twitching !

A further thought about the PW. Because its that bit softer it does allow you to use a finer hooklink should you wish to. As long as you are at short/med range I think its a very versatile option as it will do both float & lead work. You could even use it to catch carp should you so wish

shane99 · Jan 14, 2015

S-Kippy said:
Well if you do I'd be interested in what you think of that Darenth. If its any good then its a steal for the money. My wallet is twitching !

Lucky for me the Tackle Box is just the other side of the Dartford bridge M25 as I am in Essex. I can hop over and check it out in the next few weekends. I need to feel this rod in the flesh, dont like shopping online for rods as that Korum Xpert rod 3/4 lb was an eye opener as to how unsuitable it was when I actually got my hands on it.

Will check it out & report back asap.

michaels · Jan 14, 2015

sam vimes said:
However, there is an alternative I've become aware of. I've never even clapped eyes on them, but the Tackle Box Darenth Valley Specialists are reputed to be just the ticket for the use you have in mind.

I`d just like to give my recommendation for the Tackle Box - Dareth Valley Specialist. I first saw the rod at the Tenchfishers AGM last year and was very impressed by the rod, build quality and recommendations from other owners. So much so that I ordered two, these have preformed beyond my expectations. I cannot recommend the Dareth Valley Specialist too much.....

shane99 · Jan 14, 2015

michaels said:
I`d just like to give my recommendation for the Tackle Box - Dareth Valley Specialist. I first saw the rod at the Tenchfishers AGM last year and was very impressed by the rod, build quality and recommendations from other owners. So much so that I ordered two, these have preformed beyond my expectations. I cannot recommend the Dareth Valley Specialist too much

Thanks Michaels, May I ask what you use it for, what main line lb & if any what hook length lb ?

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keora said:

Have a look at the Drennan Series 7 Puddle Chucker Carp Feeder in the 11 ft length. They are nice rods, not too expensive and I think it should be good for large perch. Although the label suggests it's for carp, it's suitable for other species as well.

I've got the 12 ft version, designed for lines up to 8lb and I use it for chub and barbel fishing.

Hi Keora, you will probably catch a bigger Chub or Barbel than I will a Perch

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shane99 · Jan 16, 2015

[flightliner] Shakespeare pellet waggler- 11'-0 t/c approx 14oz, £29-0 -- cracking rod and should suit your needs- check them out;

Funnily enough flightliner I spotted a couple of the 10' versions in 'Go Outdoors'
and this gave me the idea where i should be looking, I was actually feeling these rods rather than looking at online and they felt in the zone & good price too

Tee-Cee · Jan 17, 2015

Most unlike me (the wife is staggered!) but I took delivery yesterday of a Darenth Valley 11' x 0,75 tc rod. Don't ask me what it's like as it's still in the wrapping !!

For the money ( the general opinions given on here ) plus asking a few questions about the rod, persuaded me it was well worth a punt, and for the (possibly) limited use it will get, £40 is not a lot of money.......( just another 'rich' OAP squandering his dosh!!)

I will use it for a while before deciding if a screw-in tip ring would give added versatility, but for now I will use 'as is'.

REGARDLESS OF THE ROD I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT THE SERVICE GIVEN BY
' THE TACKLE BOX ' OUTFIT WAS ABSOLUTELY FIRST CLASS. THE ROD ARRIVED JUST TWO PART DAYS AFTER PLACING THE ORDER AND VERY WELL PACKAGED.
( I also had a check-up email from 'Caroline' advising delivery format)

I like good service so I will probably use this company again - something others in the trade could well take note of............................................

Of course, the rod could end up a duffer, but that's my problem !

ps I'd better add; I don't have any connection with this company

cattyfatty · Jan 17, 2015

tee-cee i had a few bits from tackle box and are top in service , keeping you informed , and if have any problems will sort out , top tackle shop.
i ask about the next Darenth valley rod they brought out , the 11ft avon quiver and asked if my old one the 0.75lb 11ft would fit the 11ft 1.25lb avon rod sections.
they gave me the choice of getting one and if it didn't fit i could send it back and they would give me the cost off post both ways no questions ask , what tackle shop would do that , not many.
and you have SAH tackle box guarantee if out goes wrong with their tackle branded in there name they will sort it out any age your gear is .

shane99 · Jan 18, 2015

UPDATE - went & had a look at the Darent Valley 11' 3/4 lb test yesterday at the Tacklebox shop yesterday. Gotta say puts the Korum Xpert to shame.

The rod is exactly what I want, not too stiff, good through action, lovely finish, and a full cork handle, no duplon anywhere and all for £39.00 so thanks for the recommendation.

For what I am doing, small water, ledgering Lobs and whatever for hopefully not too small Perch this rod really fits the bill.

On the way home went into go outdoors and had a look at a Leeda (I think) 11' PW and that just didnt feel as nice as the DV. so that made my mind up.

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