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Hi lads, would anyone care to give me their opinion as to what rod I should purchase for the following uses. Firstly floater fishing for Carp, margin fishing and stalking for the same. I intend using it on small venues with the fish running to low twenties. I would appreciate your views and advice as to the best rod for the purpose. Having said that I want to keep the cost at a reasonable level so as not to antagonise "the boss" if you get my drift. Cheers.:)
 
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Most mid priced 1.5lb tc 'Avon' type rods would fish floaters very nicely or a Nash 1.5lb tc carp rod. A 'Greys' stalking rod if they still make them would be the ideal rod for round the margins.
 
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For surface fishing I usually use a 12ft Grey's Prodigy Multi-tip Specialist rod which doesn't have a quiver tip; instead it has two Avon type rod tip sections (1.5lb and 2lb test tips).
This rod has a lovely forgiving through action and has plenty of power further down the blank for when its needed.

Another rod I sometimes use for surface fishing is an old favourite of mine; a '12ft 2lb tc Diawa Powermesh Carp rod'. This rod is a brilliant rod for catching Carp on the surface and has become a bit of a classic. This rod is no longer on the market but sometimes comes up on EBay for around £50 or less.

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No offence to the people above, but the first thing is, is the water snaggy?
If so, forget their replies and go 2lb tc minimum, preferBly, 2.5. You are never going to be able to stop a low 20 on a 1.5 or 1.75 if its charging off into a snag.

The problem with low t/c rods, avon/barbel rods etc, is that the rings come real far down the rod and are small. Which reduces casting distance, especially when your chucking out a freelined bit of crust etc.

Dont get me wrong, Ive had carp into the 30s on my 1.5lb barbel rod, but that isnt the ideal tool everywhere.
 
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As Law says, it depends on whether the venue is snaggy or not to an extent.

For small venues I'd be looking at an 11ft 2lb or 2¼lb tc, fairly soft with plenty of rings, unless you plan on surface fishing at distance, 40yds+, where 12ft gives better line pick-up. Overhead trees and roving around can be a problem with longer rods.

You could go with a lighter tc if the water has no snags at all but when a lively double charges off from a margin spot you might appreciate that bit of extra power the 2 or 2¼lb tc rods have to give you some feeling of control. The nature of stalking is that it usually puts you in tricky situations where you might have to hold them.

Likewise, if it's snaggy then a 2.5lb tc might be a better bet but you don't want to go over that for surface fishing really as it will be unbalanced with the 8 - 10lb hooklinks.
 
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I'm no carper but the Chub Outkast Small Water 11ft [2.25 tc] is a cracking little rod and well worth a look. I tried very hard to think of a reason why I should buy one but failed. Might be just the job for the sort of work you envisage...about £65-70.
 
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S-Kippy said:
I'm no carper but the Chub Outkast Small Water 11ft [2.25 tc] is a cracking little rod and well worth a look. I tried very hard to think of a reason why I should buy one but failed. Might be just the job for the sort of work you envisage...about £65-70.
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You're obviously more disciplined than me because I did the same as you but still ended up buying one! I may have convinced myself I could use it as a roving pike rod......

Haven't caught on it yet though....... :wh

The only thing I don't like about it is the bare butt end (ooh err). It's a purely cosmetic thing. I just think it looks a bit cheap.
 
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pf0x said:
You're obviously more disciplined than me because I did the same as you but still ended up buying one! I may have convinced myself I could use it as a roving pike rod......

Haven't caught on it yet though....... :wh

The only thing I don't like about it is the bare butt end (ooh err). It's a purely cosmetic thing. I just think it looks a bit cheap.
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Yes.....it would look better with a full cork handle. Nice rod though and it struck me as potentially quite a versatile beasty. As I dont do either carp or pike I really couldn't justify having one.
 
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Ordered a Chub Outkast 2.5. Mainly for the margins, It is quite a snag filled venue so I decided to give it a try. I only paid 26 quid for it brand new so think it is good value. As to the surface malarkey, I will carry on using my 12ft 1.75 TF rod for the time being. Anyone have recommendations for a reel to balance out the Chub rod ?
 
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