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Hi everyone,

First post so hello! :D

I've not found a similar thread so hope this is okay to post...

I'm off backpacking next year and want to have a rod with me so I'm trying to find an all round travel or telescopic rod that I can have attached to my backpack. Has anyone got experience with travel rods? Any reccomendations?

I'm afraid that the 'magic rod' I'm after probably doesn't exist i.e something that I can spin for tiger fish for in Africa as well as bait fish for catfish in Asia and so on.

Thanks.

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Hi Sumtime,

Thanks for your response. Having a look now, the shimano exage bx stc 270 looks like it might do the trick?...

But coming from a primarily carp fishing background I'm a little out of my depth with the rod specs. I'm guessing the biggest casting weight 50-100g might be the best bet for me to deal with a bunch of situations?

Thanks again
 

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Not sure if it may be a bit over gunned for yor use but their was a thread about the JW young barbel travel rod may be worth a look as you get 2 tips.
look in the coarse fishing forum.
 
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Good luck on your trip.

I have never fished in Africa, but on my travels all round Asia I used a Fox trek 3.25lb carp rod coupled with a 6010 baitrunner.

I found this combination coped with beach fishing, catfish and Mahseer fishing in India as well as catfish and stingray in Thailand.

The hardest thing to find on your travels will be decent hooks, line terminal tackle.
Pliers, wire cutters and trace wire are also essential.

Most other items of tackle can be bought locally, think laterally. Crochet hooks make great baiting needles, beads can be bought from local markets. Plastic buckets for bait are cheap as chips.
Banksticks can be custom made for pennies by the locals.

I once bought a spade for 90p just to dig worms - passed it on to a local guy who made a fortune renting it out.
 

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Thanks for the responses everyone.

-Pointngo-Whatever I can hook really. Butter catfish in Africa. In Asia- Red tails, vundu, tiger, leopard- happy to catch it all-may be ambitious here but a mekong would be awesome too!
I'm just happy to catch fish. The vast majority of my fishing has been carp fishing and I'm looking to branch out now so any and all seem exciting.

-The Sogster; good advice, thank you. Sounds like you've had exactly the kind of trip that I'm hoping to have!
I haven't been able to find that 3.25lb test yet, but certainly would feel more confident with a carp rod as that's what I'm used to. Did you do much lure fishing with it?

-Fruitowl, I like the idea of seperate tips for different situations but I don't think that it'll be up to some of the fish i'll be targeting (certainly not the ones I've looked at anyway).

thanks again for the responses everyone! :D
 
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It's a big ask looking for a rod that suits everything so whatever you choose will be a compromise somewhere. I thought vundu were African and can't remember hearing of them in Asia, but if you asume they'll go to about the same size as a redtail, say 60lb as a basis (they can both go bigger) then the 50-100g rod should do it, although you aren't going to be able to horse them in.

Depends where you go for Mekong but they fight hard. If you hook a big one you might struggle with that rod. A lot of rods used in Thailand are about 6lb test.

Forget what you think you know about the fighting abilities of carp or anything else we have over here... they're p!ss weak compared to redtails and mekong. I've not fished in Africa either and haven't caught a vundu but I wouldn't expect them to fight any/much harder than redtails, which are strong for their size... they proper grunt at you as well. lol

I've not fished for tigerfish either but unless you're going after goliath tigers the 50-100g rod should be fine, unless you have to use small lures when the weight won't load the rod.

I've recently been looking for a similar rod for a (hopefully) planned trip to Mexico for roosterfish although I've not made my mind up yet. If it were me, I'd forget the carp rod and go for something like a 50-100g, 8-9ft rod. A long rod is very tiring to cast lures on. As well as the exage, another option I've been looking at is the Fox Trek Sailfish XT, which casts about 50-100g and gets good reviews.

You need to think about a reel as well... I wouldn't use anything with a graphite spool personally as they can shear off, especially with braid. One of the Penn spinning reels might suit you but I've not really looked for a suitable reel yet... maybe the quantum cabo but it's not particularly cheap and maybe not needed in freshwater.

One more thing to consider; when you fish somewhere that's very hot, the metal expands and contracts and your drag needs to be checked fairly often... at the very least once in the morning and once in the evening as the temperatures change. Mono line also deteriorates very quickly in sunny climes. I use braid but Gold Label do a mono that was designed to cope with high UV. Depends on how long your going for but you'll probably have to change mono pretty often, even the UV line.

Hooks are always an issue but Gold Label penetrators or catfish-pro bp specials are plenty strong enough. If you think you need even stronger look at the Owner gorilla hooks.. super strong.

Hope some of that helps. :)


Sogster, that's some feat landing a stingray on a 3.25lb tc rod mate. I used an 8lb test rod in Thailand for one about 110lb, with 100lb braid, and being on the bank it took me 2 hours of straining, sweating and swearing to land it.. I've never pulled so hard on any fish, not even remotely close! Glad I didn't have the squits at the time. lol. Tbh, it nearly broke my back and I don't really want to catch another one! lol. Another fish ticked off the bucket list though. :)
 

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Have a look in the bargains thread - the NGT link I put up - there are two 4-piece travel rods; a spinning rod and a 2.75lb carp rod. Both are carbon and are ridiculously cheap.
 

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I've done a fair bit of fishing while travelling. I would agree with the comments above, don't under-gun yourself. Chuck out a foot long dead bait in to tropical waters, especially at dawn/dusk/night and you might be very surprised at what comes along!

My go-to travel rod for Australasia is actually a Shakespeare 6 piece beachcaster. I can understand if you don't want to go that heavy in order to cover more bases. In which case I would go for a heavy end spinning rod.

Forget telescopics, unless they have moved on dramatically over the last few years, they will shatter on your first decent hook-up!

A little anecdote, I was fishing in Western Australia off the beach using the beachcaster I mentioned. Had a hook-up. 100 lb braid mainline and 12000D Baitrunner with the drag wound down tight. Could I stop it? No, couldn't even slow it down! Nearly spooled before the leader knot went ping.
 
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Cheers Robtherake, being new to this site I'm struggling to find this. could you pass me the link please?
:D

Thanks for the advice everyone.

Mightyboosh-Jees! Gid knows what that was! :/

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Pointngo-Excellent advice mate, ta.

A 50-100g would be what kind of equivalant in test curve? So i've got a kind of idea what I could go up against with it?- 5lb????

Thanks again mate. Sounds like you've had some great travels! :D
 
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Not sure there is a direct conversion between casting weight and test curve but 100g is approx 4oz.

A carp rod of 3lb or so tc can cast 4oz so that's how I'd convert it. It's not quite that simple as action plays a part but a good enough starting point imho. You lob big baits out rather than punch them so you've got a bit extra to play with there.

If you go for a Mekong you'll be fishing a stocked fishery which would have suitable tackle for rent and that's probably your best option. You won't catch one in the wild as there's hardly any left. If you do fish a stocked lake, arapaima are worth a shot as well.

Don't forget siamese carp either.. much better fighters than our carp.

If bait fishing, you should probably hold the rod or loosen the drag otherwise you'll probably lose it.

Yeah, had a few adventures mate. Hopefully more to come! :D
 

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Cheers Robtherake, being new to this site I'm struggling to find this. could you pass me the link please?
:D


Thanks for the advice everyone.

Mightyboosh-Jees! Gid knows what that was! :/

---------- Post added at 06:08 ---------- Previous post was at 06:03 ----------

Pointngo-Excellent advice mate, ta.

A 50-100g would be what kind of equivalant in test curve? So i've got a kind of idea what I could go up against with it?- 5lb????

Thanks again mate. Sounds like you've had some great travels! :D

http://www.fishingmagic.com/forums/general-fishing/356696-bargains-let-us-know-6.html#post1361700
 

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Pointngo, the only stingray I caught went about 15lb.

I travel cheap to out of the way places can't afford guides and Gilhams type prices.

I did see one in a pond within a Wat which was around 7 foot across. Wouldn't have fancied trying to land that.

Josh, one thing not mentioned is that in places like Thailand supermarkets often sell tackle including rods. It can often be possible to buy locally and cheaply if you want a 'specialist' rod to cover for species your general rod is unsuitable for.
 
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Pointngo, the only stingray I caught went about 15lb.
I travel cheap to out of the way places can't afford guides and Gilhams type prices.
I did see one in a pond within a Wat which was around 7 foot across. Wouldn't have fancied trying to land that.

They look like a dinner table has arrived when you see them don't they! lol

I stalked the stingray under the rod tip at Gilhams.. took off like a train and didn't stop until it smashed full pelt into the bank at the end of the lake 150yds away, sending water and weeds 15ft in all directions! One's enough for my lifetime though.. caught it on the last day and it hurt that much I didn't fish the last 2 hours of the trip... just lay on the ground grinning like an idiot and trying to unbend my back. :eek:mg:

A 7 footer is a big fish and not sure I'd want to hook one off the bank... actually, I know I wouldn't want to hook one off the bank! :D
 

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I've used a variety of telescopic and travel rods for carp and catfish fishing, and for larger fish the ones I can comment on are as follows:)

DAM Backbone Telescopics, 60-160g casting weight, in a range of lengths from 1.8m to 3.6m. These are quite slim and light for telescopics, and I've caught catfish to 70lbs on these with no problem.

For something stronger, then there are the Daiwa Megaforce Big Fish Rods, which are 9'6, with casting weight of 100-300g. These come in a telescopic (5 rings), which is quite cheap at around 35-40 quid, or a 5 piece travel rod (MFBF295XH-AF) with 8 rings, the latter of which seems stronger, and is around £50-£60. I've landed catfish to over 100lbs with both of these, but the travel version is the better rod, and I've read of 200lb arapaima being caught on one. The 5 piece travel rod packs down to about 26".

Canne DAIWA Megaforce Big fish Travel MFBF295XH-AF TRAVEL, DAIWA, Par marques, Cannes - Ardent Pêche

As for reels, then it depends on what you want to spend, but you'll need strong ones for the larger catfish species. Shimano Baitrunner Longcasts and Thunnus reels are at the higher end, as are Quantum Cabo's, which are very tough. If you don't want to spend as much, then there are Fin Nor Lethals (£100) which are probably overkill, or if you want a baitrunner then the Fin Nor Sportfisher Teasers, which are cheaper versions of the older Quantum Boca and Cabo reels, at around £80, and are also tough, metal bodied reels with powerful drags. I use the 80 size for catfish, for the higher drag rating and line capacity, and they are a bit heavy at around 30 oz, but seem to be pretty sturdy reels.

Fin-Nor World Class Tackle
 
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