How to Whip Eyes on a Quivertip?

Over the years I have made quite a few rods but how do the rod manufacturers correctly position the eyes and whip them onto a quivertip?

Do they glue them on first and position them? I have practiced on an old quivertip using Alraldite Rapid, contact adhesive and even tried black nail varnish but it is too fiddly.

There must be an easy, quick way to do this. Ordinary single leg rings are easy enough to whip on but tiny quivertip single leg rings are a problem.

Any ideas?

Been doing this recently, Peter, although it's been put to one side at the moment.

Got to admit, it was bloody exasperating. I tried to position them using tape, which was a failure, quite frankly, although someone with nimbler fingers may find it a tad easier. In the end, the easiest solution was to trap them in position with silicone tube. Once there was enough whipping on the leg to hold the eye in position I carefully cut the silicone along its length to remove it.

robtherake said:

.... the easiest solution was to trap them in position with silicone tube....

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Good solution Rob - I've used a similar method with float-rubbers when replacing top-section rod-rings.

The best method to ensure alignment - if you don't trust your eyes - is to use a fine metal rod to thread through the rings.

It's a fiddly job at the best of times and everyone has their own way of doing it, the rubber sleeving seems a pretty smart idea. For me I begin by fettling the ring legs with a fine file to make sure there are no burrs or sharp edges, plus there is a good tapered lead on each leg so you don't get a step in the whipping. When I am happy with that I will temporarily position a ring at each end of the rod section with some fine cord, using a double half hitch, placed half way along each leg. Fix the half hitch on the rod section first then slide the leg under it. If you wish you can use a smear of araldite on the underside of each leg. I position the two rings by sighting down the section like a rifle. When I am satisfied with the positioning, I pull the double half hitch's tight to hold the rings secure. I then put a ring on around the mid point of the section and align that to the existing two fitted rings, then position the remaining rings accordingly. Once the araldite, if used, has gone off I then do the final whipping, starting at the bottom of the leg and whipping up towards the ring. I remove the temporary cord whipping, nicking it with a razor blade, as I secure the ring legs with the final whipping. Quite straight forward to do, with very little practice. Pete.

I have found once you tape one leg of the line guide into place you can usually whip the other OK. If slipping i used a touch of araldite to hold in position then whip over (cheating i know).

I made a selection of home made screw-in tips - oldskool i know - a couple of years back. These were customised from expensive push-in Drennan ones or other bargain sorts picked up on fleabay and were up to about 18 " long. They were for use with a pair of old carbon Normark Avons (NCD series) with threaded tip rings that i wanted to use quivertipping. The real pain was getting the quivertip to align with the rod rings when fully screwed in, and customising the female part to fit the quivers.

In retrospect i can honestly say i wish i hadnt bothered, as most broke or became unusable for one reason or other. But i did get literally whole hours of quality use from them on at least several occasions.

I either use a short length of float rubber and/or a tiny dab of super glue just to hold it in place till it's partly whipped.

Keith

I need a new guide for a shimano technium specialist quiver tip (the long white ones), anyone know where I can get one to match ?

Robtherake and Keith M: no fishing today, didn't fancy the hot and too bright weather. So followed your advice to make a long, very soft glass quivertip. I positioned the eyes with silicon tubing then slightly lifted the eye and blobbed on a tiny drop of super glue with the tip of a wooden cocktail stick. The superglue did not stick to the silicon tubing and was easy removed when the glue had dried leaving the eyes correctly positioned for whipping in the normal way. Thanks again.

tigger said:

I need a new guide for a shimano technium specialist quiver tip (the long white ones), anyone know where I can get one to match ?

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I wouldn't have thought they'll be too hard to match, Ian. Those lined quivertip rings are much of a muchness, aren't they?

Micro Guides 4mm-8mm sizes For feeder/quivertip rods BVAG with Hardlon centres | eBay

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Failing that, I have quite a few rings (salvaged from old rods) that might do the job. I stripped a broken Shimano Hyperloop Barbel quivertip top section and still have the eyes from that in my box of tricks.